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cobweb or pan cyan?
    #3442415 - 12/03/04 03:55 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

i think its cobweb what do you guys think

they were innoc 5 days ago using the karo tek it looks very thin but i have never grown pan cyan before







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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: intrigue]
    #3442435 - 12/03/04 04:02 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

hard to see, had my first cobweb experience today would recognize it now.

Here are cobweb pics check it http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23418

Cobweb is kinda "hairy"

Gluck!

EDIT: i also remeber that pan cyans has a lees strong mycelium then the cubes have. DO a search here!


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3442439 - 12/03/04 04:04 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

yay i know but canu get cobweb in the jar?

also it is very thin and hair looking at first i though alot of the pollifill fibers somehow got mixed in wiht it


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: intrigue]
    #3442443 - 12/03/04 04:05 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

I think it can, it thrives in environments that are (to) humid.
But I'd wait the experts advice. Sometimes its hard to tell the difference between cobweb and mycelium, they say... :wink:


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: intrigue]
    #3442455 - 12/03/04 04:10 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

I lightned the pics but it's still a little hard to be sure. Give it a few more days and you'll know for sure.


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: intrigue]
    #3442479 - 12/03/04 04:18 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

you can certainly get cobweb in the jar, its kinda difficult to tell if its
mycelium from the pans or cobweb with the pictures, I'll do what I can
cobweb is a light grey color and generaly will grow a great deal faster
than your mycelium, 5 days is pretty fast even for a culture

the mycelium will be more clingy to the grains, a little denser than cobweb
and definately a white color.. you can give it a few days to be sure, allow it
to fill out, if it gets greyer or forms little black spots, its positive that is cobweb.


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: intrigue]
    #3442544 - 12/03/04 04:34 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

From my experiance, Pan myc is much more "wispy" looking than other cubes myc.

So, its a toss up, because your pics are tough to eyeball - well. But.....P#1 is right :thumbup:.... 5 days is very fast, so it may be a contam. Cobweb moves VERY FAST. I have seen it creep across a 24 inch long cased substrate, in 3 days

I never had cobweb in jars - or bags, only on casings.

Example of COBWEB on a cased substrate surface.


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: agar]
    #3442556 - 12/03/04 04:38 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

I've inoculated cobweb to both jars and bags... a 4lb bag of birdseed
was colonized and sporulating in a little more than a week. in 2 weeks
it looked like dark grey polyfil.


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: agar]
    #3442558 - 12/03/04 04:38 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)



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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: intrigue]
    #3442572 - 12/03/04 04:43 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Your pics are hard to tell but i think your ok ...contams really rip thru jars with Pan Mycellium extremely fast...
BTW i have thrown out perfectly good Pan mycellium before thinking its bad  :crazy:...Pan mycellium does bleed colors worse than Cubbie does
I really think you are ok just keep a eye or a nose on it...enjoy  :thumbup:


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: OldSpice]
    #3442579 - 12/03/04 04:44 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

thanks pawpaw... glad to have the Pan Man pay us a visit.


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3442592 - 12/03/04 04:48 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
I've inoculated cobweb to both jars and bags... a 4lb bag of birdseed
was colonized and sporulating in a little more than a week. in 2 weeks
it looked like dark grey polyfil.



Why would you innoc cobweb? Im shure you mean Pans :confused:


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: OldSpice]
    #3442613 - 12/03/04 04:54 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

maybe you should search out some of my earlier posts, I got bored with growing mushies before I came to the shroomery, I decided that molds and bacteria could
prove an interesting subject.  I have a culture for a superstrain of cobweb
if you're interested... :evil: you cant effectively combat them if you dont
have the samples to work with.

you should read my horibly failed coffee tek, it predates the hippie version


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3442640 - 12/03/04 05:02 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Naah ill pass on the mold isolate ...thanks anyway
BTW I thought i was the mold/contam king :smirk:
Yeah the coffee stuff i tried with corn crashed with an astounding boom also...I`ll stick with the proven methods also :smirk: :thumbup:.


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: OldSpice]
    #3442666 - 12/03/04 05:09 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

I offered, everyone wants a superstrain until it comes to molds... :thumbdown:

my coffee/WBS colonized very nicely, it took on several nice shades of brown
and yellow, its only problem was fruiting... coffee grounds dont hold enough
water to do anything, I thought I would give it a few years and see if I can
revive a culture from the dried mycelium...


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3442793 - 12/03/04 05:33 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
thanks pawpaw... glad to have the Pan Man pay us a visit.



Thanks Pris ...I havent done any Pans for awhile but i think im gonna make a few jars this evening...
I threw out 12 qt jars once because i had some wierd colors in them and discovered i had made a mistake to late...
My thanks still go out to Bluemokee for providing me with a most excellent Fla Copelandia pan prints available...I`ll try and get some quality prints this time so others can grow this strain :thumbup:


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: OldSpice]
    #3442960 - 12/03/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

ya ill let it go for a couple more days. i was only concerned because of the speed it grew.


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Re: cobweb or pan cyan? [Re: intrigue]
    #3462210 - 12/08/04 12:15 AM (12 years, 4 days ago)

OK so its been 5 more days i killed all but one jar and put the last jar above the fridge. it is still the same color not gray but not as bright white as the cube. myc. also there is no black spots and the outer part of the wbs is completely covered. also it seems to be holding the wbs together very tightly.

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