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Invisiblezxsevinr
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harvesting casings
    #3359253 - 11/14/04 11:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

all the boomers are so close together that i dont really want to stick my fingers down in there and bruise everything around each one i pick and it seems to pull a big chunk of substrate out with the mushie should i use scissors and clip by the bottom or what?


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Re: harvesting casings [Re: zxsevinr]
    #3359268 - 11/14/04 11:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I was wondering the same thing. Some people say twist some say, cut. I know ripping out substrate is a bad idea, maybe cutting and covering with sterilized casing mix is the best idea.

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Re: harvesting casings [Re: call_me_kido]
    #3359298 - 11/14/04 11:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It's interesting that so many are having these same problems..

I'm experiencing the same thing. I kinda knew when I was harvesting that ripping the casing layer out was going to be bad news.. Indeed, it seems to have caused a horrible 2nd flush.

Anyway, I just got ahold of Stamets book The Mushroom Cultivator, and it touches on this exact problem. It says that indeed ripping the casing layer away is detrimental to the 2nd flush and the cause is too thin a casing layer. So take note.. I'm going to make it thicker next time and see if it helps.


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Re: harvesting casings [Re: discman1]
    #3359318 - 11/14/04 12:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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discman1 said:
It's interesting that so many are having these same problems..

I'm experiencing the same thing. I kinda knew when I was harvesting that ripping the casing layer out was going to be bad news.. Indeed, it seems to have caused a horrible 2nd flush.

Anyway, I just got ahold of Stamets book The Mushroom Cultivator, and it touches on this exact problem. It says that indeed ripping the casing layer away is detrimental to the 2nd flush and the cause is too thin a casing layer. So take note.. I'm going to make it thicker next time and see if it helps.




While its quite possible your thin casing layer could be the cause, its more than likely that you'll have a few holes in your cashing layer after twisting or cutting. Just remember to patch wherever needed. And do remember, too thick of a casing layer could lead to future problems.


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Re: harvesting casings [Re: Phynatikus]
    #3359337 - 11/14/04 12:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Phynatikus said:
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discman1 said:
It's interesting that so many are having these same problems..

I'm experiencing the same thing. I kinda knew when I was harvesting that ripping the casing layer out was going to be bad news.. Indeed, it seems to have caused a horrible 2nd flush.

Anyway, I just got ahold of Stamets book The Mushroom Cultivator, and it touches on this exact problem. It says that indeed ripping the casing layer away is detrimental to the 2nd flush and the cause is too thin a casing layer. So take note.. I'm going to make it thicker next time and see if it helps.




While its quite possible your thin casing layer could be the cause, its more than likely that you'll have a few holes in your cashing layer after twisting or cutting. Just remember to patch wherever needed. And do remember, too thick of a casing layer could lead to future problems.


Yes, that is true, good point.

But when I harvested my 1st flush, it was completely gone... all the way down to the substrate except in the areas where there were no mushrooms right around the edges. Coincidentally, those places are the only areas growing shrooms on the 2nd flush. :wink: I think in my case it was indeed too thin a layer.. Will see next time, I guess.


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