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Re: 22 minutes [Re: Gomp]
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emotions are emotions and beleifs are intellectualized emotions. You CAN deal with them as separates and when combined, they create attitude. So when talking about attitude you are dealing with them both.

Anyway, I was wondering what moves you to either this or that. But, silly me, I will never get an answer. It's something I gotta feel out.

You would say, "If I knew, how would I know that I knew?

"Isn't this also that?"


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Re: 22 minutes [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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""If I knew, how would I know that I knew?""

no?

if i knew i would know i knew? that is the share essens of knowing is it not?


""I was wondering what moves you to either this or that""


It is always this and that. If it is something, then that something becomes this or that. I would liked if you found a descent example, but I go whit this one, let us say I was asked by a friend, what I would be doing later that night, I could answered something like, what I?m going to do later this night, I will maybe find out when I?m doing it later this night..

Another one, (can?t think of a good one to make a point I see visible, but that may be)
Say I was asked:? do you want this pack of socks, or this pack of socks.? Only difference, being the colour. I would take the one I took, as I can only take one of them, I cannot choose which one of them I want? If I could chose, I could take both. But since I could not, I chose one of them? Choosing is something you did? Not something you can do?
Could sound contradictive, but what if it is not? :P

?Misunderstanding fear and illusion clear away ignorance?
-unknown :P


so what moves me to either this or that, is either this or that?


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Edited by Gomp (11/01/04 03:02 PM)

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Re: 22 minutes [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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im interested by your idea that beliefs are intellectualized emotions... care to go in detail? im not quite getting it


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Re: 22 minutes [Re: Moonshoe]
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I don't want to over complicate it.

Any beleif you have was generated and gelled by an emotional reaction to something.

good feelings generate and gel beliefs and then the beleifs generate more good feelings.

bad feelings generate and gel beleifs and those beleifs generate more bad feelings.

Take a situation and apply this.


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Re: 22 minutes [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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what seperates an idea from a belief?


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Re: 22 minutes [Re: Gomp]
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makes sense. thanks


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Re: 22 minutes [Re: Moonshoe]
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(Ooops, not nescessarily adressed to last reply)
I see emotions as deep resource modifier for believes, but ever in care that emotions can intellectually falsify an idea which becomes a belief. So I would not really rely on emotions as justifications for beliefs, but they can help you find your way. Try to intellectually countercheck.

Believes built on emotions only, are in general at least dangerous.

So my attitude stays with the greeks: Panta rei (everything is flowing) - new facts, new contexts, new emotions -> modified attitudes (with the assumption of uncertinity, which brings some stability herein)


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Edited by BlueCoyote (11/02/04 11:53 AM)

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belief vs idea [Re: Gomp]
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anything can be an idea
a belief is an idea that you hang other ideas on,
when you get old they begin to sag but many are still eager to suck on them


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Re: belief vs idea [Re: redgreenvines]
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so, if do not hang other ideas on an idea, you don't belive?


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Re: belief vs idea [Re: Gomp]
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Gomp said:
so, if do not hang other ideas on an idea, you don't belive?


exactly
you are one step closer to creation
no waste


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