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Attachment to one's opinions
    #3234002 - 10/08/04 07:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ever notice how when someone disagrees with them, they often take it as a personal insult against them and become offended? If someone says something negative about their favorite band, a role model they look up to, their religion, or their political party, they take it personally. I feel that this is pure egotism, and it prevents us from opening our minds and advancing our knowledge and wisdom.


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: silversoul7]
    #3234016 - 10/08/04 07:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah its very frustrating.


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: silversoul7]
    #3234025 - 10/08/04 07:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone does it, and theres no way of changing that. Best thing to do really is to accept it. Unless heaven comes to earth :smile:


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: WhiteRussian]
    #3234550 - 10/08/04 10:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think I do it.  I used to, when I was younger.  I think it's something that comes with age, and maturity.  I learned that I was not my beliefs.  Anyone can have an opinion that is different from mine on the president that I like, whether abortion is right or wrong, or whether God exists. 

This does not mean that there is something wrong with me, or that I have to defend my beliefs.  Everyone's entitled to their beliefs, even if different from mine, except that, of course, they'd be wrong.  :grin:


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: silversoul7]
    #3234565 - 10/08/04 10:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes thats why I sometimes find myself holding my tongue.


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: SoulTech]
    #3234600 - 10/08/04 10:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"I learned that I was not my beliefs."

:smile: :thumbup:


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: WhiteRussian]
    #3234613 - 10/08/04 10:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think everyone does it, attachment to concepts is a self-conscious thing. Concepts are relatively new to evolution, giving symbols to everything we categorize, and so we hold it very dearly, but as we evolve we will realize the subjectivity of all our concepts until you get to someone like the Buddha, who I doubt would care at all if anyone criticized anything he said.

This attachment and egotism is just a passing phase


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: silversoul7]
    #3234691 - 10/08/04 11:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

What's the point to criticising anothers personal preferences anyway?

Isn't that also an attempt at boosting ones ego?

Think about it.

Isn't being critical of anothers ego also an attempt at boosting ones own ego?

That reminds me of the phrase, "the one who smelt it dealt it". LOL

Okay, I'm feeling really silly now but, do you see what I am saying?

I can't wait until we ALL get past judging this ego stuff and just let people get high or down on them selves as it serves them too.

I think egomaniacs are hysterical and ego depressives are funny in their own way too, like Glum from Gullivers Travellers 'we're all doomed"

I think it adds to the diverse richness of our personalities. If eveyone was totally egoless, life would be BORING. If everyone induldged in ego games "knowing they are doing it without attachment" and no body cared because they were all in on it, life would be ridiculously fun. That would be freedom in my book.

After all, we would all know that people are not their egos and that we are not our own, so whats the big deal? It would be like an on going costume party. Why are so many in a flurry hurry to strip people of their egos high or low?

Sure, it's good to be able to stand naked, but once you can comfortably, why can't you put some fun costumes on when you feel like it?

It's great to become aware of the link between ego attachments and suffering, but once someone has that down, and can do a 2 second jiffy heal, what's the problem for them or anyone else?

Just coming from left field on this one. It might be ahead of its time and maybe not.

Egos are like costumes to me!


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3234703 - 10/08/04 11:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
What's the point to criticising anothers personal preferences anyway?





It's okay to criticize one's beliefs, in a constructive manner. It's when it's done in a destructive manner that it is coming from the ego and closes the door to communication.


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: silversoul7]
    #3234831 - 10/09/04 12:00 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"I'm always right and I'm never wrong, so vote for me - George Leroy Tirebiter, candidate in sector 'R' "

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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: silversoul7]
    #3235168 - 10/09/04 01:56 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

this is an awesome point that I am happy to be reminded of :laugh:

psst...it's ok to be wrong too :grin:


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: kaiowas]
    #3236387 - 10/09/04 02:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

works the same way with emotions. good post. if we (i) could all learn a little detachment without sacrifice shit would be mad chill yo.


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Re: Attachment to one's opinions [Re: truekimbo2]
    #3237106 - 10/09/04 07:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yup, we are loyal to our thoughts. no problem with that, as long as you recognize your thoughts are always based on limited information. If your information changes, then your thoughts change. Or they should. I'd like to think I'm really pliable and flexible and ductile with opinions, but I'm not always. neither are you.


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