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Case old cakes?

#314552 - 05/11/01 06:48 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Can you case cakes that have already fruited? Just wondering if I can continue the cycle, or does the mycelium change/die after it fruits (I know you can have multiple flushes, but what about after that?).

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Re: Case old cakes?

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#314554 - 05/11/01 06:56 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

You might get an extra flush or two out of them. The mycelia doesn't die from fruiting. It may perish for lack of nutrition, though.

You might have luck crumbling them into a bulk substrate also. There is an increase in the risk of contamination in using cakes from an unsterile environment. If you're willing to take the risk, it may pay off.

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Re: Case old cakes?

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#314592 - 05/11/01 08:35 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks. Is there a particular method or tek you'd reccomend? Maybe since it's already not sterile, I should tell the third party (of course this isn't me I'm talking about here) to try dung or something like that. Any tips or suggestions?

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Re: Case old cakes?

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#314612 - 05/11/01 09:06 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

My FOAF would recommend starting w/ fresh cakes. However, if that were not an option, they would most likely mix up a batch of coir/worm castings substrate. Worm castings seem to have a high resistance to contamination.

Natural Beginnings Seed-Starting Mix would be a good bet. It's coir + worm castings + cricket guano. Moisten as needed and pressure cook it as appropriate for your container.

FOAF hopes this helps.

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Re: Case old cakes?

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#314630 - 05/11/01 09:24 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks!

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Re: Case old cakes?

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#314704 - 05/11/01 10:57 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

dung is free, pasturise and cut hte outsides off your cakes. slice and dice in a clean area and spawn to cooled dung. My friend is seing this work with an old pan trop casing. he/she just took the casing layer off the top and saved the spent dung to use as spawn and there is rapid growth in the new substrate. nothing to loose but a few dollars and some time. alot to gain!

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Re: Case old cakes?

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#314714 - 05/11/01 11:08 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Use the crumbled cake casing tek.Straight verm since it sounds like your new at this.

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