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How would you feel about a National ID Card?
    #3134965 - 09/14/04 05:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: MOTH]
    #3135035 - 09/14/04 05:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Opposed, but we have a national ID card now... although it wasn't meant to be.

You have one, I have one. It's called a Social Security card.


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: MOTH]
    #3135040 - 09/14/04 05:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbdown:


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: MOTH]
    #3135071 - 09/14/04 05:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

we already have them.



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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: MOTH]
    #3135099 - 09/14/04 05:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's been said, but yeah.. we have SS cards. If they were to laminate them, have a section for your driver's license type info... eh I wouldn't really care. I don't wany any kind of technology included though, shit that could track where you go, what you buy, where you're at... etc.


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: ]
    #3135100 - 09/14/04 05:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

True, you can't do anything without a SS card these days. Does anyone know when the social security card came into being and why?


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: MOTH]
    #3135105 - 09/14/04 05:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
Does anyone know when the social security card came into being and why?



During FDR's administration. To hijack capitalism and institute a socialist economy.


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3135112 - 09/14/04 05:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
Does anyone know when the social security card came into being and why?



During FDR's administration.  To hijack capitalism and institute a socialist economy.




When I figure out wtf you're trying to say here, I"ll probably get angry.  :tongue:


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: MOTH]
    #3135375 - 09/14/04 06:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

But you aren't required by law to carry your Social Security card with you at all times. And you are not required to display your Social Security card to a SOL simply because they ask for or demand it.

Even the Hibel case proved you do not have to provide Driver's Liscense or Social Security card only identify yourself, nothing more.


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: MOTH]
    #3135583 - 09/14/04 07:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'd say it's another non-issue being made into a "big deal". As has already been noted, there already is a national ID card (SS card, lol).

That being said, it is most definitely not wise to go any further with this kind of thing. Biometrics scares the hell out of me.


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: trendal]
    #3136044 - 09/14/04 09:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

My question is, why do we need one? Are we missing out on something without having one(except, ofcourse, for the SS card?)


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: thieverycorp]
    #3136169 - 09/14/04 09:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

We've got a national ID card..


the question is I would say, should we have a new card, required to be on our persons at all times to prove we are who we are?

I'll put this as gently as I can. FUCK THAT.

that was being gentle.

If you break the law and provide false info to the police you'll get in more trouble for it.

If we progress to such a paranoid, ass-sniffing state in this country that I am forced to, on the whim of some power-tripping pig, provide ID (and of course you know they'll ask what you're doing -- so you better be doing something!)..

that's about the time I grab my guns and head for the hills and start kickin' it like it's Mad Max all over again


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Re: How would you feel about a National ID Card? [Re: MOTH]
    #3136388 - 09/14/04 10:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
True, you can't do anything without a SS card these days. Does anyone know when the social security card came into being and why?




Sorry I don't know those details, but on my Father's old Social Security card from the early 1960's it says on the front: "For Social Security and Tax Purposes-Not For Identification"


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