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OfflineBleaK
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shelterd youth
    #1108784 - 12/04/02 02:14 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

Has anyone else noticed that before anyone can vote in our society. They spend 18 years being bombarded by other peoples ideas and morals. Given only the time when they are asleep to think for themselves. At school during the day. Doing homework and watching TV at night... Always being barked at by someone. Always being influenced while never having time to think about what they are being told.

People arent even voting with their own will anymore.


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OfflineTrippingBillies
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Re: shelterd youth [Re: BleaK]
    #1108942 - 12/04/02 03:10 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

I agree. The scary thing is when they attempt to express themselves and it sounds exactly like the propaganda they were fed. There is no more original thought.


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: TrippingBillies]
    #1109074 - 12/04/02 04:20 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

Kids these days are not encouraged to think for themselves.


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: psilocybinist]
    #1109210 - 12/04/02 07:03 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

they're not even taught to think period....


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: BleaK]
    #1109687 - 12/04/02 01:04 PM (14 years, 2 days ago)

Public schooling has fulfilled it's goal admirably.


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OfflineGunboat
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Re: shelterd youth [Re: Evolving]
    #1120959 - 12/08/02 01:36 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hello? Winston? O'Brian? I don't see you anywhere. :b

Seriously, though, every year our society becomes more and more Orwellian. Especially with the advent of this new information security thing with the ID cards. It's also scary that the man at the helm of this program is Rear Admiral John Pointdexter. The same despicable creature that was involved in the Iran-Contra scandal during the Reagan administration.

I realize this is a little different than what you were talking about, but I feel it had to be said. Thank you, I apologize for my digression.

Yeah, I have to agree, the American public is too propagandized for a supposedly free republic. I'd say my first qualms start with DARE.


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: TrippingBillies]
    #1121991 - 12/08/02 02:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)


I agree. The scary thing is when they attempt to express themselves and it sounds exactly like the propaganda they were fed. There is no more original thought.


I disagree. It seems to me as if youth seem to usually rebel, but in obnoxious and
unintelligent ways.


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: Gunboat]
    #1122001 - 12/08/02 02:05 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)



Seriously, though, every year our society becomes more and more Orwellian. Especially with the advent of this new information security thing with the ID cards. It's also scary that the man at the helm of this program is Rear Admiral John Pointdexter. The same despicable creature that was involved in the Iran-Contra scandal during the Reagan administration


All of this talk about national ID cards and extensive national databases that will
monitor our transactions and movements, scares the fucking hell out of me.
1984 here we come...


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OfflineGunboat
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Re: shelterd youth [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #1122754 - 12/08/02 09:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Sadly, people on a nation-wide scale don't seem to be afraid of this. The only people fighting this thing is the ACLU, a few Congressmen and the odd individual. That's something I think is scary.

I have no clue why more people aren't opposing it, unless it's because people are still clinging to their President in the aftermath of 9/11.


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: Gunboat]
    #1123252 - 12/08/02 11:47 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I bet it has something to do with the elderly.
Those guys vote in large groups together. Almost reminds me of pack animals closing in on the kill, if you ask me.


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: David_Scape]
    #1123573 - 12/09/02 01:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The elderly and good ol Christian America. :confused: 


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: psilocybinist]
    #1131656 - 12/11/02 01:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

the elderly want the young to be ignorant so they can implant their ideas into the new generation. the elderly and christian america indeed. there wouldnt be christianity if the ideas werent passed down from the elderly at some point. nobody is born a christian.


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: 1stimer]
    #1132292 - 12/11/02 12:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, it's a big conspiracy, all the old folks are working together.


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Re: shelterd youth [Re: BleaK]
    #1132296 - 12/11/02 12:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

There's no way that you can go through life without being influenced by the ideas of others. The ideas and morals are passed down through thousands of generations. All new ideas are really just derivative of old ones. The only reason that we can have complex new thoughts is because we have thousands of years worth of knowledge already at our disposal.

There really isn't any possible alternative to this.


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