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how can i make a homemade magic jar
    #3134305 - 09/14/04 02:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

like this one

http://www.mushmush.nl/?page=home/store/...fdproduct_id=33

Ain't this just a jar that incubates and fruits? Could I just make one from a typical large PF jar.

I don't understand how it acts as a terrarium though. How does the jar supply the needed amount of humidity for fruiting?

I am new to groiwng and I'm looking for an easy way to start. The magic jar looks extremely easy (too easy). Unfortunatley mushmush.nl does not ship to the USA. Too bad they don't sell the jar without spores.

Does anyone know a place that sells a similar product but without the spores included? That way I could have the jar shipped to me (ohio), and order the spores elsewhere.

If there is not anywhere to order a similar product does anyone know how I could make a homemade version of the magic jar?


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: PsiTripper]
    #3134403 - 09/14/04 03:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

What makes the jar easy is because he's aready put the work in and constructed
the jar already. Its harder to make the jar than to just use it.
Its made so u just press the button and wait.


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: SubGen1us]
    #3134527 - 09/14/04 03:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

This is what is going to make the spore business go under by the DEA. I don't mean to come of as a jerk, but this product is "walking" a very fine line. Having spores and substrate in the same package let alone and inch away waiting to be mixied at the push of a button is going a bit far in my opinion. Anyways...it looks as is you you make one of those pretty damn easy, quite a simple concept.


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: PsiTripper]
    #3134649 - 09/14/04 04:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, it probably is walking a fine line. That's why i was hoping to find one that did not have the spores included. The one on mushmush says that you can replace the spores, but you have to order it along with psilocybe spores.

I would like to make one that does not have the push button, but just has holes in the top like a PF jar, so that I could inoculate myself.

I just don't understand how the jar acts as a terrarium. Can normal PF jars act as a terrarium too? Do people just move the cakes to a larger terrarium to produce bigger yields or what?

I guess I just want to know if I can grow mushrooms in a simple homemade jar from inoculation to fruiting, without ever having to take the shrooms out of the jar until harvesting. Is it possible to grow shrooms this way using a homemade jar. Anyone have any ideas on how to do it?


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: PsiTripper]
    #3134735 - 09/14/04 04:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

You're wondering about invitro growing. Search the forum for the word "invitro"... that's all the help I know to give.


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: PsiTripper]
    #3134773 - 09/14/04 04:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

alright, thanks ofr the tip zeroarmy


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: PsiTripper]
    #3134799 - 09/14/04 04:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

this method of growing is basically just the invitro tek. you can check it out the over at mycotopia. Basically you just leave a pf prepared jar to colonize in light instead of darkness, the light triggers pinning and fruiting inside the jar where humidity is already at a constantly high level. I've read here that with vermiculite as a substrate yields are much lower than fruiting in a terrarium but with can be increased with different substrates.


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: PsiTripper]
    #3135284 - 09/14/04 06:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Anybody here know exactly what substrate and strain these magic jars use?


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: Cubieman420]
    #3135373 - 09/14/04 06:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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This is what is going to make the spore business go under by the DEA. I don't mean to come of as a jerk, but this product is "walking" a very fine line. Having spores and substrate in the same package let alone and inch away waiting to be mixied at the push of a button is going a bit far in my opinion. Anyways...it looks as is you you make one of those pretty damn easy, quite a simple concept.




http://www.mushmush.nl/?page=home\info

If you want to gow jars like this make grain or BRF jars knock em up as usual only 1/3 filled and expose to light. I would also make a large hole in the top for the polyfill so they have extra air. Even if your doing PF dont do the holes with tape meathod, use polyfill stuffed holes as with grain teks.


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3135524 - 09/14/04 07:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"This is what is going to make the spore business go under by the DEA. I don't mean to come of as a jerk, but this product is "walking" a very fine line. Having spores and substrate in the same package let alone and inch away waiting to be mixied at the push of a button is going a bit far in my opinion."

Agreed.


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: vecter1212]
    #3135860 - 09/14/04 08:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

YOU CANT SHIP THEM TO THE US! /\/\


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3135912 - 09/14/04 09:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"It is impossible for us to keep track of all continually changing laws in all the countries we ship to. This means that the customer is solely responsible for any consequences that may arise from ordering items that are illegal in their country. The fact that we ship an item to your country does not automatically mean that it is legal for you to possess or import. If you are in doubt about the legal status of an item consult your lawyer before ordering. Do not email us, we can not help you with legal advice."

I think they do actually, it doesn't say they wont anywhere. But I have seen even worse example of this at my local headshop. It was a mycobag type thing with spores in one of the top corners, all you needed to do was un-wrap a twist-tie and they would fall in. Good products for users who don't want to deal with being sterile etc, but bad for the spore "community" in general.


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: Cubieman420]
    #3135975 - 09/14/04 09:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes but they dont ship to the us. You would need to set up a middle man. I havent seen mushroom stuff at any local head shops yet, its not like shrooms are really a problem anyways, there's little to no crime around the sale and cultivation.


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Re: how can i make a homemade magic jar [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3136096 - 09/14/04 09:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So, anybody know what kind of substrate they are using? I'm curious, sorry!

But I also agree, packing both in one package is just bad news. Especially if stupid people start trying to get these sent into teh US.


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