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Invisiblezdm
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    #3058755 - 08/27/04 03:25 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

in my chamber does perlite need to be put in the oven before i put it in the bottom? and do i set them on the lids or on the perlite

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Re: perlite [Re: zdm]
    #3058773 - 08/27/04 03:29 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

you can bake it in the oven and that will clean it from contams, though its kinda hard for your cakes to get contamed after they are fully colonized.

take the perlite and make a layer on the bottom of your fruiting chamber as thick as you want, and then pour it into a bucket, and soak it in water. strain it out, and just put it back into the terrarium. you can add a bit of water, but the thing with perlite is that it floats, so putting a layer of water is kinda BS because it doesnt work, just get the perlite soaked and maybe add a bit of water
if you want. this should work good for a couple of weeks, at least until your done with your cakes, then you can take the perlite and bake it clean again and what not. up to you. some people dont clean their perlite at all, others change it every 2 weeks, just whatever you wanna do.


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Re: perlite [Re: PaintedDeath]
    #3058798 - 08/27/04 03:35 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

sweet just what i needed thanks alot man couldent find that shit anywhere

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Re: perlite [Re: zdm]
    #3060372 - 08/27/04 10:58 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

In cake mix with brf, can you use perlite instead of vermiculite, same thing, or very different???
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Re: perlite [Re: blueyedgrl2]
    #3060389 - 08/27/04 11:06 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Some People *have had success using perlite, but it really isn't good at all. It is strongly suggested you not try this, and wait till you can get some vermiculite.

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Re: perlite [Re: zdm]
    #3061114 - 08/28/04 04:24 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

2in. perlite 1in. water.What the tek calls for.I also add some h2o2.


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Re: perlite [Re: KaptKid]
    #3063403 - 08/28/04 08:47 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

h2o2 is a must if you don't want any contams


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Re: perlite [Re: mycopsycho]
    #3065361 - 08/29/04 01:51 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Is it possible for a fully colonized cake to become contaminated? Just curious because my cakes are sitting right on the perlite and I didn't use h202 for fear that it would kill my cakes. But I've also read that it's very difficult for a healthy cake to contaminate. Now I'm confused.

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Re: perlite [Re: mudvayne]
    #3065371 - 08/29/04 01:53 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

10:1 water:h2o2 is what u need to use because a fully colonized cake can become contamed.


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Re: perlite [Re: mycopsycho]
    #3065493 - 08/29/04 02:42 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

mycopsycho said:
h2o2 is a must if you don't want any contams




That is so untrue.

I used to use perlite straight out of the bag with plain tap water.


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Re: perlite [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #3065729 - 08/29/04 03:51 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

aren't u a lucky one?


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Re: perlite [Re: mycopsycho]
    #3065909 - 08/29/04 04:52 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Well, Biotek is kind of right.  If it is coming straight from an UNOPENED bag in theory it should be uncontaminated, as it must be properly processed before it is sold.  Althogh I don't think it is a good idea, it is possible to use it straight from the bag without problems, I've seen it done quite a few times.  If you are reusing it you should definately resterilize though.  Also, I recommend leaving your cakes sitting on the lids, just one more way to avoid contams...peace :smile:

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Re: perlite [Re: bemmers1]
    #3065996 - 08/29/04 05:17 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: perlite [Re: zdm]
    #3068102 - 08/30/04 05:59 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I say throw them right on the perlite. It works wonders.



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Re: perlite [Re: zdm]
    #3068150 - 08/30/04 06:32 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

The Shroomery FAQ States:

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7991

Is there a problem with contamination of the perlite?
An obvious concern with the perlite technique is sterilization. Intuitively, it just doesn't seem right that one would work so hard to make sure the grow chamber is sterilized correctly, and then dump a big wet pile of unsterilized perlite in the bottom. But generally, there doesn't seem to be much of a problem with contamination of the perlite. Apparently expanded perlite is produced by a process which brings it to 800-900 degrees Celsius, therefore it is certainly sterilized when it goes in the bag. Obviously storing an open bag, especially if it's wet, could introduce contaminants to the perlite, but an unopened bag of perlite should be relatively contaminant-free.

Most people simply use perlite out of the bag, though some swear by boiling or baking the perlite first to sterilize it. It's also possible to add a small amount of liquid sterilizer to reduce contamination.




I've never sterilized or added H202 to the stuff and have never had problems with it.


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