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InvisibleFucknuckle
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Jesus turning water to wine???
    #2996369 - 08/12/04 06:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I have had this talk with many people over the years so I would like to have it with all of you.

It seems jesus attented a wedding with his family. When they got there, the party was all out of wine. These people knew of Jesus's ability to perform wonders. So the host of the party asked him " WHY DON"T YOU TURN THIS WATER TO WINE?"

SO he did.

Now here is the funny part.

A guest said to the host "Most people serve the best wine first and the worst last because everybody will be to drunk to notice how bad it tastes"

So let us understand what happened

JESUS MADE VERY GOOD WINE AFTER EVERYBODY WAS ALL READY DRUNK!!!!!!

Now I have heard alot of double talk on what this story is suppose to really mean, like some sort of big secret. A meaning different than what the face value is. BULLSHIT

Jesus was there to party. Jesus also said more then once in good book " All things are good in moderation "

SO my take on this is.. Jesus is ok with a party ,just so long as you don't lose sight of the goal....Being closer to God and to be like Jesus.

What do you think??


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2996377 - 08/12/04 06:02 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I think the bible is just one big story book


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #2996394 - 08/12/04 06:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah your are right in one way but, the question still remains for those who belive in the good book.... WHY WOULD JESUS MAKE MORE WINE FOR A BUNCH OF DRUNK PEOPLE?

Hey what is up with that time travle ad????
Where did you find that??
Cause if you got it out of the paper. I'm sending a response!! :thumbup:


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2996402 - 08/12/04 06:13 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe jesus was drunk, pissed in a bucket, and had a good laugh at everyone else's expense.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: deff]
    #2996432 - 08/12/04 06:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Very funny dude
Hope we get some serious thought :smile:


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2996446 - 08/12/04 06:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

moderation is very subjective.

who says you cant be drunk in moderation?


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: BleaK]
    #2996457 - 08/12/04 06:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Good point. What is moderation?

Appernetly jesus thought giving drunk people more wine was ok.

I think when he talked about moderation he was speaking of long term, I.E. gettin drunk every day

That is the point I have made at many prayer meetings at several chuchs over the years. Why can't man pertake in the spoils of the BUZZ!! they can, and jesus promoted it.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2996475 - 08/12/04 06:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Fucknuckle said:
Yeah your are right in one way but, the question still remains for those who belive in the good book.... WHY WOULD JESUS MAKE MORE WINE FOR A BUNCH OF DRUNK PEOPLE?

Hey what is up with that time travle ad????
Where did you find that??
Cause if you got it out of the paper. I'm sending a response!! :thumbup:




Well, if it's not a story then I dont know what to call it. But it's definately is to be belived in order for it to be real. But I'm not going there because religion is a pretty strong subject and if you try to contradict anything that someone bases thier whole life on, then thats just going to hurt people, and hurting people is wrong.

But anyways...no, I found the the ad somewhere a long time ago. There were like 4-5 of these hilarious ad's, and I never found them again:) But thjis one survived, and its a jewel!


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #2996509 - 08/12/04 06:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah that is why this question of the wine thing has caused so much panic at church.

YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS VERY EASY TO HURT SOMEONE WITH CONVICTIONS.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2996553 - 08/12/04 06:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, and imagine all the exhaustive energy that goes into explaining everything in that story, and defending it. Its almost like it causes more greif for some people than it does make thier life better.

Humans are so facinating.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #2996590 - 08/12/04 06:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Humans are facinating for sure. Christians can give good reasons for all the killing in the bible but they can't begin to explain the water to wine thing.

Silly humans need a buzz! It is part of the big picture. Isn't the idea of heaven total Bliss??? So .....Lets get high.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2999397 - 08/13/04 09:09 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

it has been pointed out by some that the only reason that jesus son of mary (yeshai ibn yusef) was approached about the stores of wine running low at the wedding feast was because it was his wedding (to miryam of magdala), & he was responsible for the beverage supply...


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #2999429 - 08/13/04 09:17 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

the bible is bullshit.. the koran is a lie... the bagavagita did not fall from the sky.. these are the books written by man they caued wars now follow if you can......


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: sillysimon]
    #2999682 - 08/13/04 10:27 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You're an educated adult now, purchase all three of those books, and read them - since you probably don't know a single sentence from the later two.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: gnrm23]
    #3001049 - 08/13/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Humm....... That is something I have'nt heard yet.

His own wedding to mary? yes he would have to get the wine. I know, I did at my own wedding.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3001230 - 08/13/04 04:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The meaning of... is incomprehensible to a human mind. It says so in the Bible. Regardless, thinking the Bible has a meaning is Christianity. You don't have to understand it, you just have to believe. You're saved by faith alone.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: spooky123]
    #3001397 - 08/13/04 05:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Its a story, plain and simple. And its a great story because its full of morals. All the references to the book are basicly pointing out to certain morals that are connected to certain stories, and there are ALOT of them in there.

What makes the saying: "Dont belive everything you read" not apply to that book, its just like any other book! It just means alot to alot of people because in some cases it has even stopped wars, and that is a very powerful thing! Powerful book? yes. Story? Yes.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: spooky123]
    #3001529 - 08/13/04 05:35 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Dude I belive alot a what I have read in the bible and apply many lesson to my life. I guess the real question I am asking is this..... Do you think jesus was supporting the idea of being drunk and enjoing youself or does the story meaning something else???
Does anybody actually read the bible besides me??


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: gnrm23]
    #3001657 - 08/13/04 06:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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it has been pointed out by some that the only reason that jesus son of mary (yeshai ibn yusef) was approached about the stores of wine running low at the wedding feast was because it was his wedding (to miryam of magdala), & he was responsible for the beverage supply...




I just read a book with the same theory.

The Catholic Church uses this story to show how Jesus listened to His mother.


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Re: Jesus turning water to wine??? [Re: chinadoll]
    #3001673 - 08/13/04 06:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

A lesson to listen to your mother!! That is very interesting

Son go get some beer!! I have heard that a few times in my life. LOL


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