Lightningfractal said:

"Home to the rabel-rousing Christ"

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I got a good chuckle off that one. I use to want a painting of Jesus on a Harley with a Black Leather Jacket, his long hair, a smoke hanging out of his mouth and the caption that reads ;

A Rebel With a Cause!

Like James Deans rebel withOUT a cause pop art. People forget what a rebel rouser he was for his time, a radical, way cool and had a cause-shedding light on dark places. Somehow the church turned him into some shmutzy prude up on a pedastal only reachable through a priest or religion.

I need nothing to know and hang with him save a heart.

ANYWAY,

Fog and freak (freaky frog) You know how in the christians and reincarnation hread, you guys mentioned the Bible talking about one life and one death.

I talked in their about how think its been misinteropeted as one physical life. I talked about the one life being the eternal life of the soul and the death being reffered to the death of the false self, that beleives it is speparate from God/jesus.

And here you two are talking about being born again. You are still alive and yet, to be born again, you must've experienced the death of something which was not physical and the birth of "eternal life" through knowing you are at-one atoned, atonment- at one ment, being in the state of ONE with the creator.

Maybe it takes many physical lives to come to this place of self realisation in a defined/individuated soul being. Maybe Creator didn't want others to know love and appreciate what it is by right alone, but by having to find it in a journey of self discovery.

A baby who dies at birth never had a chance. Does it deserve eternity in hell?

Consider that original sin was another misinterpreed concept fr what souls really opted to do. deny the Gd self, so it could find the god self. Ya now how they say you have to loose your self to find yourself and discover who you are.

I personally feel and think a lot of souls set off on this grand adventure of creation to realise the self in this way with blessings and support.

I also think, via duality the whole happening got misconstrued to serve human agendas and turned into some idea that we wanted to be better then God and rebelled against it hense original sin.

Lucifer comes into play because we needed someone really intelligent to help us figure out how we could create a realm that was beleivable enough where we could experience forgetting who and what we were.

It had to be made where it wasn't going to be easy to find our way back to re-membering who we are.  It had to be dark, and only when we figured out how to turn on our heart lights could we begin to find our way. Thats why jesus said, "they have eyes but they can not see". One needs to see with the heart and inner light of the minds eye coupled with love.

We had to have our perception split to see Two instead of One to make it a challenge to re-member the self.

There's more to this insight. It may have some puzzle pieces for people who gave up on the Bible.

If the Bible is going to be your only source for how it went down then............whats left to be said or known by you. It's already been said and known. Whats left for you to do but save others sinners who rebelled agaisnt God and followed Lucifer out of heaven with it.....

Me, now that I am almost fully remembered, I am getting to enjoy realising my creative potential as a co-creative being that can think independently of the One within the one.

We couldn't do that when we only knew ourselves as one mind. As one mind, we had nothing to relate ourself too and no mirrors to see who and what we were.










Jus something to consider.

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FreakQlibrium said:
And here you two are talking about being born again. You are still alive and yet, to be born again, you must've experienced the death of something which was not physical and the birth of "eternal life" through knowing you are at-one atoned, atonment- at one ment*, being in the state of ONE with the creator.


I think what dies my friend is SELFishness

*At-one-ment

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God told me himself that just because i had accepted the gift of salvation through Jesus that the circumstances of my life would automatically get any easier, in fact, he said they COULD get worse, although it would take a perverse skill of imagination for me to imagine how 

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Next time you see God would you please remind him that I still need that lotto win?

FreakQlibrium said:

Next time you see God would you please remind him that I still need that lotto win? 



Now THAT my friend you will have to do for yourself

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