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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: GymnCarrey] * 2
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GymnCarrey said:
I'm back and I've been following a new policy of confidence lately. Instead of worrying that I'm cultivating mold and doing nothing, I've decided to embrace potentially growing mold and just do things. At the very least I'll gain some experience isolating cultures, even if the cultures I'm isolating are mold.

I took some transfers from my old plates in the last post and for the most part they all looked really nice to me. I had a couple go bacterial, and learned a valuable lesson about pouring my plates below the filter holes. I also noticed that my modified plates with filter holes were growing a lot faster than my plates without them. It was an admittedly small sample size, but the correlation with plates that were getting fresh air and plates that were growing fast was 100%. I had swapped to mostly running my plates unmodified because it was a pain to change the filters each time, but now I'm all in on the modified plates. Anyway, I decided that in the spirit of confidence, I was just going to take my best plates and make some new transfers last night. Those new transfers are already starting to reach out onto the fresh agar just a little, which is exciting. Both the last set of transfers and these new ones seem to be growing with a lot more vigor than the initial spore plates and I'm taking that as a good sign.

Excited to share my progress so here's a pic of one of the plates I took transfers from last night. The new one's aren't very photogenic at the moment, but I made a slight adjustment to my agar prep that should make them a lot nicer to photograph once the condensation clears and the cultures expand. I realized that the layer of potato flakes at the bottom of every plate were probably hurting the fidelity of my pictures, and saw milkboy's clear agar tek float to the top of the forum which gave me some ideas for my own process.




Good on you for sending cultures if you're not sure if they're good or not. This is the exact mindset I eventually took years ago. Had I not, I would not have grown anything cool. Beware tho that this can also be a very frustrating path. You will invest more time into more failure certainly. However, you will gain TONS of knowledge quickly. One thing I wish I knew from them beginning is that most, if not all known active genera fall under Basidiamycota. Whats great about this is that the hyphae produce clamp connections when they are dikaryotic. No clamps = No fruits. Get a good second hand microscope off Facebook marketplace for cheap dude. Fuck buying a brand new amscope. They'll work, but they're shit.

What's interesting is that gymnopilus cultures will usually make you think mold. They look a lot like a cubensis monokaryon culture. When scoped, you will infact find clamp connections if it's a viable culture.

Also, don't EVER let anyone or anything make you believe that contaminated grows will infect your other grows. That is not how it works.

Edited by PhenoDreamers (10/07/26 10:53 AM)

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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 1
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PhenoDreamers said:
Good on you for sending cultures if you're not sure if they're good or not.



Thanks. It certainly has been frustrating but it has been illuminating in equal measure. I've gained a much greater confidence that what was on that plate is what I'm looking for. Mostly because I've witnessed so much more contamination on a couple subsequent transfers. I've also learned a lot about the finer points of making my plates and about sterile procedure.

My transfers from this plate are all moving at the kind of glacial pace that would suggest to me that it's not mold. Every mold I have encountered takes over the plate in days, and my new transfers have only just reluctantly started to spread onto the surface of the agar after 2 weeks. I'm also noticing some morphological differences. The only molds I've seen that don't change color are typically less dense and have visibly longer hyphae. They appear more like fuzzy hair than the almost matted carpet look I'm seeing on that original transfer plate from my last post now that it is fully colonized.

I also sent a chunk from that plate to spawn. It was growing quite slowly there too, but I had some decent sized areas of colonization appearing on the sides. I decided to shake it yesterday, which may have been slightly premature, but there's only one way to find out. I got some cube spores and a smash wedge from Nerdo recently and they're despite the gyms headstart and my contaminating the wedge with bacteria, the cubes are making a really strong go at outrunning them. This too has been a good learning opportunity. I just started some clones of agaricus bisporus as well and I'm looking forward to what they can teach me. It all feels like it's adding up to a more comprehensive knowledge that is making the pursuit of the gyms easier as well, despite their dissimilarities.

PhenoDreamers said:
One thing I wish I knew from them beginning is that most, if not all known active genera fall under Basidiamycota. Whats great about this is that the hyphae produce clamp connections when they are dikaryotic. No clamps = No fruits. Get a good second hand microscope off Facebook marketplace for cheap dude. Fuck buying a brand new amscope. They'll work, but they're shit.



Would love to get one once I've got some disposable funds. It's become pretty clear to me how useful this would be for identification and for observing mycelium. Particularly if I wanted to engage in any crossing like I've seen in the Lovi project which I'm now following with intense curiosity.

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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: GymnCarrey] * 5
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Gymn junonius clone


Gymn luteus F2 (millet 1:4 - 1:5 hwfp)


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Species grown so far

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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: BlimeyGrimey] * 2
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BlimeyGrimey said:
Gymnopilus luteofolius 'Fort Lawton, WA' F1



Spawn : 1 Pint of Hard Red Winter Wheat

Sub : 1 Pint of Coir & 1 Pint of Hardwood Pellets (Blend of Maple, Cherry, and Hickory)



Boss shit


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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
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:cool:

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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: Myco-A-E] * 3
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hello gym enthusiasts.

im a real noob! this is my first go.
this is faths ziploc tek with a regular plastic bag. poked a few in it.

this is a wild clone which fruited between 90-100F and 99% humidity.
it is much colder than that now!
this bag got inoculated 15 days ago with grain.
i bucket teked the sub it’s around 50/50 coir/hwfp

any advice? surface condition are looking good? ( i believe?)

what is the deal should i put it in a water tub with a aquarium heater to fruit? give it more FAE?
a casing?

or just LIFTA?
any advice is highly appreciated thanks a lot.

Edited by pilzezuechter (11/10/26 05:44 AM)

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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: pilzezuechter]
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I had success by putting my tubs in a very high humidity environment with decent air. What that looked like for me was a shoebox inside a dubbed water tub with an offset lid. If I didn’t offset that top tub the gyms would grow flat along the substrate and die. Not awesome.

The growth looks really good that you have. Looks really healthy.

Which gyms are they?


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
I had success by putting my tubs in a very high humidity environment with decent air. What that looked like for me was a shoebox inside a dubbed water tub with an offset lid. If I didn’t offset that top tub the gyms would grow flat along the substrate and die. Not awesome.

The growth looks really good that you have. Looks really healthy.

Which gyms are they?



Hi thanks for the reply!
thats giving me hope!

i have a shoebox of the same substrate in a dubbed tub. there’s water at the bottom and the shoebox is sitting on jars elevated out of the water since a few days now. i have an aquarium heater in the water on 30C. the condensation is crazy so i leave the lid on the shoebox (so it doesn’t rain inside), flipped and slightly offset.
not sure at all just gambling really

you think i should put the bag in a tub with water aswell? on a rack or something. it does seems pretty humid in the bag. maybe not enough FAE?
you had them there from the getgo or once they start pinning?
might gotta move the bag then too.

what were your temps like? did you just let the tub sit in the water inside the dubtub?

Im not a 100% sure but i think they are G. Dilepis.
they were pretty potent (for gyms). and were brusing green blue pretty heavily too. beautiful purple pins when they were young.
ive found them a lot in the wild. usually you want a big rainfall and then they pin like crazy if conditions are right. some of those pins would just shoot out the wood and become huge after a day.
they wouldn’t need any rain anymore.




so if it would (hopefully) start pinning i would just take the lid off completely to get them as much Air as possible.

Edited by pilzezuechter (11/09/26 09:33 PM)

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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: pilzezuechter]
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I waited until they were fully colonized like yours to put them in a chamber. I haven’t worked with gyms in bags, so I’m not sure. I’d think a tent would be best but I assume you don’t have one?

Also, for gym luteofolius, I cased the surface with straight vermiculite and misted until wet. I did this once I saw the very first formation of pins.

My experience is limited to luteofolius, so take that for what it’s worth 👍

Edit: missed a couple of questions. Yes, the shoebox was inside the water in another tub, which I dubbed.

I’ve fruited everything at room temp (70-73°F), BUT temperatures inside that sealed environment go up to I’d guess 82-85°. Never measured.

I feel like they’d thrive in a tent or dreamer, but us simpletons gotta make do with what we’ve got lol


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The 7 Edicts of Mushroom Cultivation as Decreed by Smellyhobbit

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Anyone can get a canopy. But can you get what you want?

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Re: Gymnopilus cultivation [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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yes thanks mate
water dubtub will do for us haha
i’ll give that a go.

that with the casing is good to know. i have some verm laying around.
is it a thing to case bags too?

do you think lights are important?

Edited by pilzezuechter (11/11/26 04:51 AM)

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