ShroomDad said:

AlChemicalResearch said:

Holybullshit said:

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I don't think Russia can be called a friend of the United States.

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Maybe you should let Trump know that.

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Name one action that Russia has done that could be rationally considered a friendly action towards the USA in the last 2 years. Name one action the USA has done that could rationally be considered a friendly action towards Russia in the last 2 years.

But since you cherry picked out that singular sentence, I assume you have an example so it shouldn't be hard to provide it, and I assume that means you realize I'm right about the rest of it.

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Seems you missed the point, Trump thinks that because he can shake hands and have meaningless, somewhat friendly conversations with Putin or Kim Jong, and because he's the President of the US, Trump thinks he has some influence with those leaders. Trump is an idiot.

They are not our friends, nobody said otherwise. Trump admires dictators because he wants that kind of power, and he despises our allies because they know he's more of a thug than a leader.

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pugster said:

being a NATO member has other benefits , the U.S has received a hell of a lot back from NATO members on defence contracts and trade over the years... and again.. the money spent is a drop in the ocean compared to other U.S military spends.
withdrawel of the U.S means it would lose a lots of it soft projection power from overseas bases.
... not to mention , in 76 yrs of NATO forming article 5 has only been used once... guess when that was and all members responded - something i think would not be reciprocated today if it was ever needed.

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AlChemicalResearch said:

pugster said:

being a NATO member has other benefits , the U.S has received a hell of a lot back from NATO members on defence contracts and trade over the years... and again.. the money spent is a drop in the ocean compared to other U.S military spends.
withdrawel of the U.S means it would lose a lots of it soft projection power from overseas bases.
... not to mention , in 76 yrs of NATO forming article 5 has only been used once... guess when that was and all members responded - something i think would not be reciprocated today if it was ever needed.

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Not the point of the conversation.

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AlChemicalResearch said:

No YOU literally said starting 2024 the new friends and axis of USA allegiance was Russia, North Korea, and Israel. Which is fucking dumb.

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pugster said:

AlChemicalResearch said:

pugster said:

being a NATO member has other benefits , the U.S has received a hell of a lot back from NATO members on defence contracts and trade over the years... and again.. the money spent is a drop in the ocean compared to other U.S military spends.
withdrawel of the U.S means it would lose a lots of it soft projection power from overseas bases.
... not to mention , in 76 yrs of NATO forming article 5 has only been used once... guess when that was and all members responded - something i think would not be reciprocated today if it was ever needed.

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Not the point of the conversation.

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... you are crying about NATO spending , yes its a part of the conversation.

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Russian Oligarch Helped Pay For Trump Jr.’s Bahamas Wedding, Report Says

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ShroomDad said:

AlChemicalResearch said:

No YOU literally said starting 2024 the new friends and axis of USA allegiance was Russia, North Korea, and Israel. Which is fucking dumb.

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Trump and his administration are aligning the US closer to Russia against Ukraine and NATO, and Trump has openly declared his love for Rocket Man.

And then there was the moment that Netanyahu found a US President who was dumb enough to kill Iran's leaders, the same President who claims to have stopped dozens of wars.

Anyway, I digress. Speaking as a US citizen, I confirm that Russia, North Korea, and Israel are not our friends, however they are skillful at manipulating our vain, narcissistic, low IQ president. They are his friends, not ours.

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Psilynut2 said:

There's this too .

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Russian Oligarch Helped Pay For Trump Jr.’s Bahamas Wedding, Report Says

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2026/09/14/russian-oligarch-helped-pay-for-trump-jrs-bahamas-wedding-report-says/

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gww said:

I am sure russia liked this and they probably liked trump's starting negotiating position giving up ukraine land before the talks even started.

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AlChemicalResearch said:

Psilynut2 said:

There's this too .

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Russian Oligarch Helped Pay For Trump Jr.’s Bahamas Wedding, Report Says

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2026/09/14/russian-oligarch-helped-pay-for-trump-jrs-bahamas-wedding-report-says/

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On the surface this could count, but the Trump admin has sanctioned that oligarch so this could literally just be a ploy to get sanctions lifted. Doesn't make it friendship.

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The U.S. levies target two major Russian oil companies, Open Joint Stock Company Rosneft Oil Co. and Lukoil OAO.

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The latest Senate bill includes several notable additions intended to give it more bite. To begin with, it incorporates the bipartisan Shadow Fleet Sanctions Act. This addition speaks to the Senate’s intention to address the wider mechanism by which Russian oil is transported. Equally important, however, the latest bill creates two new authorities: First, it permits the United States Trade Representative to impose up to 100 percent tariffs (down from the 500 percent previously proposed) on the top five importers of Russian oil and gas.

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gww said:

Oh looky,  You found a new toy and are going to post it every where.  Much easier then trying to think of something smart to say.  It's ok, I have seen your math and efforts at post and the emojis are much safer for you.  Carry on.

Ps word salad meme incoming from mr predictable.

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Psilynut2 said:

Walked out the gym today and guess what I saw , white men with ar15s harassing a 90 lb woman and her child .
  Gee thanks maga  I feel so much safer now knowing those two tiny brown people won't be there anymore , that's so worth the money . There were 3 other dudes in a dodge ram ,  Unmarked of course .
  They put handcuffs on them and took them  away .
  What wast of money if you voted for this you're a fucking idiot. 

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