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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: sudly]
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Yea but Yale didn't calculate wait times, doctors work load, medicine rejections and that trillion coming from private citizens to government oversight.  Nor did it look at the data set of government worker needed to mange the new Medicare system.  No were did the policy change explain a tax based system to pay for it.

Obama care could have moved directly to single payer health care system.  They had the votes to push it through.  But even Obama and democrats knew better.

As to the softer language to communism yea there isn't an effective difference between the two. No government can pull off socialist ideal without being a small population nation reliant on a bigger, richer country by there nature resource.

State run industry is the only way for the government to make enough money to take care of its people effectively.

Dutch disease is always a result. But sudly if you can define the actual difference on how it works i be happy to be your campaign manager for free .


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: vicepope]
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Doctor work loads haven't collapsed anywhere there's universal healthcare.

Wait times for elective procedures are a thing, but serious injuries are cared for ASAP, and covered in a universal healthcare system.

The current system has more medicine rejections and 'out of system' charges than ever.

Every government that has implemented it has a functioning government to handle hiring employees too.

What do you mean a trillion coming from private citizens? People save too, because they remove the insurance premium, and increase the income tax by less than what the premium was, which makes a net saving.

The savings come from reduced drug prices, no more insurance premiums, and reduced beaurocracy.

If you can explain how Mamdani or El Sayed or Bernie Sanders are communist, please do so, because otherwise you are missusing language to try and give different meanings.


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
If you can explain how Mamdani or El Sayed or Bernie Sanders are communist, please do so, because otherwise you are missusing language to try and give different meanings.


Translation-please explain how the communists are communists so the other communists can refute it:teabird:


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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No, none of them are communist. Prove me wrong or shut the fuck up.

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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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Trollings all you've got ey?


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Trollings all you've got ey?


Denying reality is all you got, troll is your magic power word.


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: lowbrow] * 2
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Everyone you disagree with is a communist :rolleyes:

Great chat.


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: Lynnch] * 1
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Lynnch said:
No, none of them are communist. Prove me wrong or shut the fuck up.


:whathesaid:

... Words have meanings...


... "Lowbrow"


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: sudly] * 1
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sudly said:
Everyone you disagree with is a communist :rolleyes:

Great chat.


Right wingers need to get their shit together. This kind of vapid nonthink bullshit may work on their mindless MAGtards, but for anyone with basic critical thinking skills, it really won't cut it.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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defining communism in simple enough terms for someone who cant do basic maths is going to be impossible :grin:

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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: pugster]
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pugster said:
defining communism in simple enough terms for someone who cant do basic maths is going to be impossible :grin:


Im great at basic math.  Im also great at spotting bad actors.


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: lowbrow] * 2
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lowbrow said:
pugster said:
defining communism in simple enough terms for someone who cant do basic maths is going to be impossible :grin:


Im great at basic math.  Im also great at spotting bad actors.


im sure in your own mind you are great at a lot of things, unfortunately they dont translate to the real world :smirk:

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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: pugster] * 1
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pugster said:
lowbrow said:
pugster said:
defining communism in simple enough terms for someone who cant do basic maths is going to be impossible :grin:


Im great at basic math.  Im also great at spotting bad actors.


im sure in your own mind you are great at a lot of things, unfortunately they dont translate to the real world :smirk:


How basic is basic?

I mean... I'm sure if he had more fingers he could count past 10.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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I doubt it.

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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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If I got all of you chanting the same thing in unison maybe Im doing something right:teabird:


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: lowbrow] * 3
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lmao Dunning–Kruger effect and Occam's razor in real time.

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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: pugster]
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https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-spending-healthcare-changed-time/
Americans pay out of there pocket for Healthcare,  taking away there spending choices to a single payer system is what I was referring to.

As to democratic socialist being communist I asked you to firgure out the difference and explain it to me.  As to government tax difference and collection for the people and companies can only be achieved by making them state run i.e. communist.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnv56q82vnro
Australia universe healthcare is failing.

https://bosch-stiftung.de/en/story/germans-are-losing-faith-their-healthcare-policy
Germany is also facing failure because of over working medical staff and failing cost.

Where do you keep finding your success stories witg rose tented glasses.


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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pugster said:
lmao Dunning–Kruger effect and Occam's razor in real time.


:laugh2:

lowbrow said:
If I got all of you chanting the same thing in unison maybe Im doing something right:teabird:


Maybe so...

Now that we are all in agreement, you've got us right where you want us!

Pretttty clever, bub.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: pugster]
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pugster said:
lmao Dunning–Kruger effect and Occam's razor in real time.


Dunning kruger, thats a pretty big thought concept for you to espouse, but occams razor:lolsy:  Everybody knows your team hates that shit:teabird:


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Re: The Democratic Socialists of America [Re: lowbrow] * 2
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as per usual ....


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