tree frog said:

It's not quite harmless to humans. They produce a mild toxin that can give some folks intestinal issues like diarrhea.

It's probably fine sprinkled in a casing or substrate.  And it can potentially even survive pasteurization.

But I wouldn't put it in a spray bottle (again) and try to mist with it.  Since that makes it more likely that it will end up on the fruit bodies.

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tree frog said:

But I did get some nice photos first!

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tree frog said:

One thing I will say about popcorn, is it does have enough nitrogen in it that I can top fruit it and get an average of five good flushes.  Which is about three more than 1:2 popcorn:substrate (no straw in the substrate though).

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tree frog said:

I'm leaning toward it being a fad, that I unfortunately started

My rye and millet prep worked well for me for gourmets and tamps but not bvi or bisporus.  And when I brought that up in this thread years ago, folks suggested I try AIO which is what I did for a long time.

I tried corn for bulk when pheno was playing with it, and had good results but eventually ran into issues with bacteria so started prepping it dryer.  I also have tried wheat and it's about the same speed as the drier corn prep I use now.

Blue popcorn has antimicrobial properties.  Pans were slow on it for me, but it likely inhibits bacteria too.

One thing I will say about popcorn, is it does have enough nitrogen in it that I can top fruit it and get an average of five good flushes.  Which is about three more than 1:2 popcorn:substrate (no straw in the substrate though).

But I haven't tried top fruiting other grains.

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tree frog said:

You can syringe water the casing, I usually wait until the pins are about an inch tall though.

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Kunta Kente said:

If you stop misting once pans are pinning, and you have them in a JCM, does that mean you heavily cut down on the fogging once they pin? Or maybe if there are 3 shelves and fog comes in from the top, you move the pinning ones to the bottom and the slower ones further up top?

Soon I will need to actually dial in my JCM although it's working excellently on my test timers.

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hi. Thanks for replying 👍🏻 it’s  a kind of automated environment box similar with phenodreamer set up, not sure what term is used for it in community. all was done as many times in the past with different varieties of pans, now they are fruiting already so humidifier are keeping environment wet inside. The question popped up cause fruits are dense and my pans tray not really having enough of mass of manure to accommodate so much water to let that amount grow up. My concern was if them stressing after injecting water while fruiting.  In past I tried to feed them with some mixes of LME +water on late stages like once all nutrients gone (after few waves harvested), and there was benefits, but wasn’t try to inject during  fruiting . that was result of feeding, and box already rebuilt, those huge vent  holes gone

Kunta Kente said:

If you stop misting once pans are pinning, and you have them in a JCM, does that mean you heavily cut down on the fogging once they pin? Or maybe if there are 3 shelves and fog comes in from the top, you move the pinning ones to the bottom and the slower ones further up top?

Soon I will need to actually dial in my JCM although it's working excellently on my test timers.

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By the way, once I’ve seen those amazing Fahster ziplocks method, built my own modified with simple jar humidifier and more holes all around for tamps and ingeli😁

Mr Piggy said:

tree frog said:

Oh and you don't have to put them in the fruiting chamber.  I'm paranoid about gnats atm since I moved everything onto the same level of the house my partner has all her plants.

I used to do this on a shelf instead.

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Preemptively sprinkle mosquito bits (the kind with bti) in all of the pots.  I collect house plants like they will fix my mental health and I have to drop bits in each one to prevent gnats.  It works on the gnats, but aside from a lil dopamine bump each time I get one, the plants haven’t fixed me yet.

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Adas said:

Mr Piggy said:

tree frog said:

Oh and you don't have to put them in the fruiting chamber.  I'm paranoid about gnats atm since I moved everything onto the same level of the house my partner has all her plants.

I used to do this on a shelf instead.

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Preemptively sprinkle mosquito bits (the kind with bti) in all of the pots.  I collect house plants like they will fix my mental health and I have to drop bits in each one to prevent gnats.  It works on the gnats, but aside from a lil dopamine bump each time I get one, the plants haven’t fixed me yet.

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It kinda works but it's not a miracle cure. I've once got so mad at the fuckin gnats that I've covered the entire surface of the sub with a thick layer of BTI. They died off but later came back with vengeance. It was horrible. They might have developed a resistance or the BTI became ineffective, idk.

The ideal solution would be predatory nematodes, but these are 1000x harder to keep than some powdered bacterial spores that you can just forget about for a decade.

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I don't use bits in mush cult, I use them to prevent a population from establishing in my house plants.  For that use they have so far been 100% effective.  I eliminated a population of thousands, THOUSANDS of them from my house.  It was a nightmare for a month, but now I have complete control of the population.  The only gnats we see are the ones that come in from outside.  I think mush cult doesn't have long enough of a timeline for BTI to work, it took a month and a half of repeated treatments before I got rid of them.  I had to soak bits in a gallon jug of well water and water the plants with it about once every week to two weeks, each watering making a new batch.  I was honestly shocked by the results and have kept up on it since   My poor carnivorous plants aren't getting enough to eat.

tree frog said:

How colonized are your plates currently? And how long until you have to go?

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