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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: jeffreykite]
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@jeffreykite - lookin good dude! If they’re pinning in the jar, it’s time to let ‘em outta there and get them into a fruiting chamber. I haven’t encountered that situation myself, so some others will hopefully chime in about what’s best to do.

Oh man, just go with the water tub - to me, there is nothing about a SGFC that makes it any better & its certainly a pain in the butt to construct, messy, etc.

The water tub will do just fine. I use a baking cooling rack in my water tub to support the cakes & I put my cakes onto/into upturned wide-mouth plastic mason jar lids, because they’re handy when adding supplemental water later in fruiting. Lots of others just place their cakes onto the metal lid centers - that works great too.

Looking good! Best of luck with your grow! 

Try to print some of the caps, if you get a chance, to have prints to trade! Printing is very simple to do and trading prints is lots of fun, and a great way to get new varieties!

Hope this is helpful. Peace to you, friend!


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: flapping_bird] * 1
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My advice,  similar to the others. Either pluck those pins and eat them:lol:

Or leave them on for the Dunk/roll. Sometimes they fall off sometimes they survive and they start growing like crazy after the dunk and sometimes they don't.

The takeaway here is... it doesn't really matter. Whatever you want.


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman]
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neuroshaman said:
tultedspoon said:
Yes please keep us updated. The waiting part really sucks. I think I didn't consolidate long enough when I originally tried my water tub, but also my chamber was very big. Waiting for pins is the worst and most boring part about mushrooms. Hopefully with more experience I can do everything possible to shorten this time.

Right now I am just trying to fruit from jars trying to figure out surface conditions and humidity, GE and FAE, before trying any more water tub setups. I figure it should give me some cushion by keeping the cakes in the jars. If things go well I may stick with keeping things in jars because so far it has been so much less of a hassle and more tidy.

I'm trying to stick with "on the dry side rather than too wet" but the delitray that made my biggest shroom was pretty wet and shitty, so I don't know if it wasn't as wet would I have gotten more? Or was it because it was that wet that I was able to get a shroom (and because it was so shitty, I only got 1 instead of more). More time needed to tell unfortunately.



Still no pinning on my 5 BV cakes that I birthed 9 days ago. It's dry here and I think I may have been cracking my tub too much. So I've reverted to just misting once in the morning and closing the lid. However, I'm not latching the lid so I think they are still getting some FAE and the tub seems to be staying much more humid this way.

Here are my cakes this morning:

Anything you all think I should be doing differently? Or do I just need to stay the course and be patient?

My 7 GT cakes are on day 3 in the water tub and I am trying to take a similar course of action with them but didn't take a pic this morning. They're still mostly covered in verm but starting to see some myc poking through



Still nothing going on here either. I have 1 of my jars in a water tub setup to see if anything happens sooner than in my ziplocs.

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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: tultedspoon] * 3
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Thanks guys, really appreciate it.

I've decided to pull them out and dunk them tonight. I'll let you know how it goes!

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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: Scemilope] * 3
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Scemilope said:
Some MS Apollo (albino cube) cakes soaked and cased in mounds of coir/verm. The water tub has air stones and a fogger.
I have a good feeling about this batch.













Update

We have lots of pins and at least one chonker.
We also have a party crasher. 😆
Not sure what flavor it is, it's a pretty color green though. It isn't moving quickly, so I'm not sweating it for now.









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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: Scemilope] * 2
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Still not a whole lot going on for me either. I tried the LITFA method for the past two and a half days but I just gave them both a good mist.







Anything you all can think of that I should change up with my setup? The 5 BV cakes have been in for ~10 days and the 7 GT cakes have been in for ~5 days.


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: Scemilope]
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Scemilope said:
Scemilope said:
Some MS Apollo (albino cube) cakes soaked and cased in mounds of coir/verm. The water tub has air stones and a fogger.
I have a good feeling about this batch.













Update

We have lots of pins and at least one chonker.
We also have a party crasher. 😆
Not sure what flavor it is, it's a pretty color green though. It isn't moving quickly, so I'm not sweating it for now.












I got excited with how quickly you got progress but then I see you're just growing cubes.

If you ever get around to trying Pans this way I would love to see your progress and timeline.

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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: tultedspoon] * 3
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Round 2 after a screw up on my end


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 2
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Looks like you might be overmisting your cakes. You want your cakes moist not soggy. Also, your lid may have too much air-sealing going on. I have that same tub as a SAB and the lid seal is meant to be airtight. Id recommend propping up the lid to increase FAE with a small object like a LEGO or pen or something small and cylindrical that can fit between the lid and the top of the tub.

Heres my new favorite mini-tub. Got it at Home Depot for $2.50! What a deal. Love that Home Depotz. :yesnod:

Xico strain


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Looks like you might be overmisting your cakes. You want your cakes moist not soggy. Also, your lid may have too much air-sealing going on. I have that same tub as a SAB and the lid seal is meant to be airtight. Id recommend propping up the lid to increase FAE with a small object like a LEGO or pen or something small and cylindrical that can fit between the lid and the top of the tub.

Heres my new favorite mini-tub. Got it at Home Depot for $2.50! What a deal. Love that Home Depotz. :yesnod:

Xico strain




Thank you friend. That was the first mist I gave them in 3 days and I took that pic immediately after a generous mist but point taken all the same. Last night I also did fold up a paper towel and use it to keep the lid open a bit so that they get more FAE.

Will check on my cakes later this evening. Fingers crossed!


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Looks like you might be overmisting your cakes. You want your cakes moist not soggy. Also, your lid may have too much air-sealing going on. I have that same tub as a SAB and the lid seal is meant to be airtight. Id recommend propping up the lid to increase FAE with a small object like a LEGO or pen or something small and cylindrical that can fit between the lid and the top of the tub.

Heres my new favorite mini-tub. Got it at Home Depot for $2.50! What a deal. Love that Home Depotz. :yesnod:

Xico strain




What ratio are your cakes with verm, and how fine is the verm you are rolling in? If the verm roll is fine cut, are you also using fine cut verm when you make your BRF cakes?

Your cakes look much more smooth, maybe this is the strain though. My cakes looked more like Neuroshaman's cakes when I rolled in verm, and I'm wondering if that made things more difficult for me, or if my Pans didn't like verm as a casing layer and I should have used other recommended options (I want verm to work ideally though). Maybe fine or chunky verm doesn't make a difference because I know when I did my cakes I messed up in several ways.

I just thought I would ask because I see some people mention grinding up their verm into smaller pieces and didnt know how important this actually is.

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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman]
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neuroshaman said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
Looks like you might be overmisting your cakes. You want your cakes moist not soggy. Also, your lid may have too much air-sealing going on. I have that same tub as a SAB and the lid seal is meant to be airtight. Id recommend propping up the lid to increase FAE with a small object like a LEGO or pen or something small and cylindrical that can fit between the lid and the top of the tub.

Heres my new favorite mini-tub. Got it at Home Depot for $2.50! What a deal. Love that Home Depotz. :yesnod:

Xico strain




Thank you friend. That was the first mist I gave them in 3 days and I took that pic immediately after a generous mist but point taken all the same. Last night I also did fold up a paper towel and use it to keep the lid open a bit so that they get more FAE.

Will check on my cakes later this evening. Fingers crossed!



I made several adjustments today as well. Keeping mine crossed for both you and me.

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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: tultedspoon] * 1
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Still no pins yet but here are the cakes that are further along. There definitely seem to by hyphal knots that formed so just trying to be patient. Giving them a bit more FAE now


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman]
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neuroshaman said:
Still not a whole lot going on for me either. I tried the LITFA method for the past two and a half days but I just gave them both a good mist.







Anything you all can think of that I should change up with my setup? The 5 BV cakes have been in for ~10 days and the 7 GT cakes have been in for ~5 days.



I would definitely give them some more fae. That lid has the blue gasket on it so if you don't have any holes poked in it anywhere the its pretty sealed off. Dont choke them.

if you don't feel like modifying it maybe flip the lid or use somthing to prop it up a little and make some gaps.


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman]
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neuroshaman said:
Still not a whole lot going on for me either. I tried the LITFA method for the past two and a half days but I just gave them both a good mist.






I have similar advice — give them some air.

It's best to heat a nail (held with pliers) over a burner and, with the lid open, make 2-3 horizontal rows of holes on both sides, each hole about 1-2 cm apart.

You don't even have to take the cakes out, just remember to keep the lid open when burning - it's better for the smoke to escape upwards than to suffocate the mushrooms inside.


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Edited by Blizzloo (02/06/26 07:13 AM)

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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: Blizzloo] * 2
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If possible I'd prefer not to put holes in them but will keep that option in mind. For now, I'm going with this method to prop them open a bit as a few others suggested. Hopefully give them a bit of air without drying them out



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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 1
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so fun, to tub-gaze....the waiting sucks, but mentally willing those little pins to show is a great exercise. :smile: I get caught up in it on virtually any new grow - it's magical to see the magic happen! Peace to you, friend!


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman]
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As long as it works, its ok :smile:


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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: neuroshaman] * 1
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I’d remove the gasket or offset the lid rather than melt any holes in the tub.
How long were the cakes in the jars and why did you decide to birth them?

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Re: The official PF TEK cultivation thread [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said:
I’d remove the gasket or offset the lid rather than melt any holes in the tub.
How long were the cakes in the jars and why did you decide to birth them?



I offset the lid with a slightly rolled up paper towel so they are getting more FAE now.

For all of the cakes, I waited at least 8 days from colonization (i.e. a completely white jar) for consolidation before birthing. Some as long as 10 days. There was no pinning in any of the jars when I birthed them but I was following the latest PF tek that simply said wait at least a week for consolidation.

All cakes were dunked for 24 hours before I rolled them in verm.

The larger tub with the 7 GT cakes has only been going for a week and I am definitely seeing growth although no pins yet.

The smaller tub with 5 bluey Vuitton cakes has been going 12 days. I saw rapid growth of mycelium/seemingly hyphal knots in the first week but not a lot since then.


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