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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris] * 5
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After 24 hours, they are already so big... How long do you let pan's grow? I really want to take spore prints and, of course, harvest neither too early nor too late.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blueprint]
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It will depend on conditions.  But usually the caps will open up and start to flatten.

Generally though, watch for the big one to drop spores on the ones below it.  Assuming they're good spore producers, you'll still get a print even if they started to drop some.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Generally though, watch for the big one to drop spores on the ones below it.



Thank you!

It's hard to tell whether I'm just seeing shadows or if they've started to shed spores.

How many hours or days does it usually take from pin's to harvest?


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Edited by blueprint (11/28/25 09:41 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blueprint]
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It depends on conditions and genetics.  Mid-70s like another day or two from the size you have.  Low 70s two or three.  80+ they could be finished by the end of the day.

But this is descriptive based on how fast yours are maturing, some genetics are a little slower.

Edit:  And use a phone light if you aren't already to distinguish spores from shadows.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psychedelicmind]
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psychedelicmind said:
Got my first little success with pan cyans.
Tried to fruit them inside bags, but failed.
Then i followed your advice and built a JCM tub for fruiting them:



First fruits:





Got two air pumps for this box. Each one pumps about 500 liters per hour.
Temperature is about 77 °F / 25 °C.
The lid got 1/4 inch holes on a 2.0 inch grid.
The only thing still missing is a fan to drop the humidity a little bit several times a day.
Every morning and every evening after the lid has a lot of condensation on it and there is pooling water on the myc.
Do you think a fan will fix it?



Some little areas of the casing layer got a screaming yellow color.
Could this be some kind of mold?



Would appreciate any help.



Beautiful chonkers!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco] * 1
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philmyco said:
Faht doesn’t use a drip shield any longer.

I used a lid with 1/4” holes and it sucked. Same issue, dripped all over my fruits. Try using an unmodified tub lid.

Prop the front side up longer than the back side with blutac or whatever you use to prop the lid up. You’ll get condensation but it doesn’t drip into the trays anywhere near as much and the air still flows out the cracked lid.

He does still have holes in his lid though so idk how he avoids condensation drips now. Fan id have to assume?



Yeah I have a box fan on a cycle timer..  rn it’s on 2 minutes every 1.75 hours off.. still dialing that in.  I just take the lid off and shake it off into a 16qt tub once a day.  It’d be annoying if I wasn’t already checking in the trays anyway

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
philmyco said:
Faht doesn’t use a drip shield any longer.

I used a lid with 1/4” holes and it sucked. Same issue, dripped all over my fruits. Try using an unmodified tub lid.

Prop the front side up longer than the back side with blutac or whatever you use to prop the lid up. You’ll get condensation but it doesn’t drip into the trays anywhere near as much and the air still flows out the cracked lid.

He does still have holes in his lid though so idk how he avoids condensation drips now. Fan id have to assume?



Yeah I have a box fan on a cycle timer..  rn it’s on 2 minutes every 1.75 hours off.. still dialing that in.  I just take the lid off and shake it off into a 16qt tub once a day.  It’d be annoying if I wasn’t already checking in the trays anyway



Thank you for those tips, philmyco and fahtster!
Will try that and report soon.
Likewise i will try to add an fan to my setup.

Edited by psychedelicmind (11/28/25 04:35 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psychedelicmind]
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For some pan cyan grain spawn is it the same as with cubes for shaking? Wait like a nice 20% colony then shake?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Adas said:
Beautiful chonkers!



Thanks, Adas.
Tomorrow prints will be taken. :smile:

Anomalocaris said:
For some pan cyan grain spawn is it the same as with cubes for shaking? Wait like a nice 20% colony then shake?



Not sure. This is my first pan grow. Used cow dung and brf, put it into mycotainers and pc'ed them for 90 minutes.
Then the mycotainers were inoculated with lc.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Anomalocaris said:
For some pan cyan grain spawn is it the same as with cubes for shaking? Wait like a nice 20% colony then shake?



That's what I do.


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And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
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With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Hell yea, great minds think alike


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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I used to shake more often. But they do better ime if I'm patient.


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I'd make a deal with God
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I'd be running up that road
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With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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One shake to bring them. One shake to bind them


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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I feel like I had the best results with whichever tek has the “recovery” shake in addition to the 20-30% shake. Basically shake  when you add agar to grain, then shake 1-2 days later, then at 30%.

TTBVI, Weza, Bisporus, none have complained and all finish in 7 days for me at 76-77f incubation.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco] * 1
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It's less about colonization speed and more about what gives the mycelium the best chance if there's any bacteria present.

I used to shake more often, and it's faster.  But these days I'd prefer to shake once, break once if I'm going to bulk.

Or top fruit so that the colony can form nice structures for fruiting without having to recover.  Such as these beautiful cords.




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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Seems like pan cyan are flimsy to wet spots :frown:. I guess a few grains werent dried properly in my grain spawn and the mycelium doesnt want to colonise them ...


But thats just 1 jar. Got 4 other ones that look perfect hell yea. My first pan cyan monotub grow begins soon. Gonna post some epic timelapse pictures later


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Edited by Anomalocaris (11/28/25 09:23 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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About how long does it take for your TTBVI from spawn to 1st flush harvest?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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7 days for agar to fill a 100mm dish
7 days for grain
5-7 days for bulk colonisation
7-14 days for pins
5-10 days to dropping spores

Germ plates go the fastest for me
Hpoo+straw colonized the fastest for me
Kow+coir had really long times to pin for me

I think this is what you can expect from average genetics

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: shroboo] * 5
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shroboo said:
Bisporus staying like this for about two weeks now. Unmodified tub. No knots yet. Should I be more patient or recase? I thought of recasing with grass seeds as treefrog decribed some posts ago.







Now after around 3 weeks finally I get this little guy. Just one pin but I'm really proud, my first bisporus pin ever :smile:. I hope it grows out and i can clone it. Also got some progress and fruits with pan jambo for the first time. My takeouts so far:
  • Corn is the spawn I will continue to work with (thanks for the input treefrog).
  • Low temperatures do work, my MS genetics of jambo and bisporus grow mostly between 63-68F now. This needs way more patience though.
  • I seem to overmist my casing, then it gets kind of compressed too much, and the fruitbodies are having a hard time to poke through.
  • Because of wintertime here, I tried a JCM-FruitingChamber setup, but got better success with unmodified tubs so far. I guess its a matter of dialing in that stuff. But I find it appealing to get as lowtek as possible and work with genetics, that don't mind that much (e.g. temperature and FAE).
  • I love Puck Drops for inoculation.
  • Teks might work in one environment and don't work in another. Shortcuts and impatience mostly don't help, but simplicity can.

Please take all of this with a grain of salt, here is a pan noob talking...


Thanks to everyone contributing here, It's such an awesome knowledge base and I can adapt so much also for different gourmet and medicinal mushroom projects.

Edited by shroboo (11/29/25 03:41 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Anomalocaris said:
About how long does it take for your TTBVI from spawn to 1st flush harvest?



The jar I posted was wedge inoculated on the 5th and is pinning heavily.  But it didn't go to bulk.  Pinned less than a week from being cased.  And spent longer than two weeks colonizing the little jar.

Anyway it all depends. It depends on what your spawn ratios are and what the temperatures are.  As well as what culture you are working with but TTBVI is very aggressive.


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I'd be running up that road
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