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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco] * 2
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I would start by adding an exhaust fan.  You can put the fogger and current fan on a timer, and set the humidity on a down cycle.  Essentially, have the fogger mist for you at set intervals.  Pushing the humidity up to 95+.  And then have the exhaust kick on to promote eveporation.

The passive humidity from the heat lamp setup is an issue.  And honestly, trying to heat a tent over winter is one of the reasons I moved away from them.  Gnats in the spring are the other.

I did see an option in kloakk's thread here that looks good for heating.  But these waterproof tubes don't seem to be available on Amazon or eBay in the States.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29374461


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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In another parallel experiment, the mycelium overgrowth was also so severe that I added another layer on top of the mycelium.

You probably shouldn't do that, right?

I can see the first pins now—I'm very pleased.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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It's crazy you can't get the heating tube over there :eek:

Another option for heating that I used early on is a heat pad for fermentation, I used it under one of my raised dreamers, but I think it would work equally good resting in the bottom of a Martha tent. Can't find the same one I used, but I found one on Amazon that has a built in controller and temperature probe here.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Why would a different kind of heater be any different? Heat raises temp, air holds more water, humidity goes up lol. Not trying to argue just don’t understand. My heater holds 77 and drops to 75 when the fogger is on, and then goes back up to 77 over a few minutes. Other heaters are going to do the same thing are they not?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco] * 4
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philmyco said:
There is a reptile lamp heating a tray of lava rocks and water hooked to a temp controller set at 77f.




Because your heater is pointed at a bunch of water.

I have tried seed mats, aquarium heaters, and high lumen lights.  Because my partner likes to keep the house kind of cool, I have always had to run a space heater in addition to those things to keep my temps in the low to mid 70s.

Anyway, your setup has the same issue my aquarium heaters with light did.  They create a lot of passive evaporation off the water but not necessarily the fruits.  Raising both temperature and humidity.

Honestly though you're set up might be more forgiving if you just turn the temperature down some.  I have had success in the low 70s in a tent not worrying about evaporation and running the humidity very high.

Essentially running it like a gourmet tent, set the humidity to like 95.  And set up an exhaust fan to turn on several times an hour.  The fan will drop the humidity and kick the fogger on.

The fruits won't get as big, but I also didn't struggle with aborts.  Again these were fruited low to mid '70s with very high humidity and good air exchange, without worrying about evaporation cycles.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Thanks for the explain! What if I ran the rocks tray dry? I think maybe it was asura who runs the same lamp with a monotub lid positioned over it.

Dropping temp and running a separate exhaust fan is no problem. I’ll give that a shot. Still running fog fan on lowest setting constantly in this setup? Air flow is a trickle

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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philmyco said:
Why would a different kind of heater be any different? Heat raises temp, air holds more water, humidity goes up lol. Not trying to argue just don’t understand. My heater holds 77 and drops to 75 when the fogger is on, and then goes back up to 77 over a few minutes. Other heaters are going to do the same thing are they not?



Also, if you raise the temperature without adding more water via evaporation or a fogger the rH goes down.  Because rH is a measurement of saturation at the current temperature.  This is why we see so much condensation in the evening.  The temperature drops but the amount of water in the air is the same, so humidity climbs rapidly and condenses on plants etc.

You're seeing it go up due to evaporation.  But most of it is off your water tray rather than the mushrooms or other surfaces.

Note, I'm not suggesting pointing the heat lamp at your mushrooms.  Just explaining the physics inside your tent.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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philmyco said:
Thanks for the explain! What if I ran the rocks tray dry? I think maybe it was asura who runs the same lamp with a monotub lid positioned over it.

Dropping temp and running a separate exhaust fan is no problem. I’ll give that a shot. Still running fog fan on lowest setting constantly in this setup? Air flow is a trickle



As long as the fog fan isn't blowing directly on the fruits it's probably fine.  I think you said it was a PC fan which on low those things are barely a breeze.

As far as the heat lamp, I would be careful about it drying out trays that are nearby if you remove the water.  That would be my main concern with it.  But I haven't used one so someone else might have a better idea.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Continuing the physics discussion, why isn’t this as simple as turning up the fogger fan and pushing more air out the bottom of the tent? Is it that doing so adds moto much cold room air and the heater runs more which again puts me in a fogger-won’t-run loop just at a slightly lower Rh?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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So. Help me with something? If I can keep the overall space at 80 what is the impact on fans and foggers and perlite? Do you need a fogger? Does anything get obviated? Can you dial in fae without a fan?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 1NFIN8] * 1
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This works great if you aren't worried about gnats.  Mine is only running in the low to mid 70s.  At 80f you might want extra holes and may have to replace water more often.  But it can't hurt to try it unmodified first.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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philmyco said:
Continuing the physics discussion, why isn’t this as simple as turning up the fogger fan and pushing more air out the bottom of the tent? Is it that doing so adds moto much cold room air and the heater runs more which again puts me in a fogger-won’t-run loop just at a slightly lower Rh?



You can try it.  Ime fans blowing in are more likely to dry things out then an exhaust fan.  Which is why I suggested exhaust first.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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Got my first little success with pan cyans.
Tried to fruit them inside bags, but failed.
Then i followed your advice and built a JCM tub for fruiting them:



First fruits:





Got two air pumps for this box. Each one pumps about 500 liters per hour.
Temperature is about 77 °F / 25 °C.
The lid got 1/4 inch holes on a 2.0 inch grid.
The only thing still missing is a fan to drop the humidity a little bit several times a day.
Every morning and every evening after the lid has a lot of condensation on it and there is pooling water on the myc.
Do you think a fan will fix it?



Some little areas of the casing layer got a screaming yellow color.
Could this be some kind of mold?



Would appreciate any help.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psychedelicmind]
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Looks like dry mycelium, not mold.

Faht has his jcm dialed in well, and uses a drip shield.  I'd wait for him to chime in.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Looks like dry mycelium, not mold.

Faht has his jcm dialed in well, and uses a drip shield.  I'd wait for him to chime in.



Thanks for your reply.
A drip shield tek would be quite useful for me. :smile:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Faht doesn’t use a drip shield any longer.

I used a lid with 1/4” holes and it sucked. Same issue, dripped all over my fruits. Try using an unmodified tub lid.

Prop the front side up longer than the back side with blutac or whatever you use to prop the lid up. You’ll get condensation but it doesn’t drip into the trays anywhere near as much and the air still flows out the cracked lid.

He does still have holes in his lid though so idk how he avoids condensation drips now. Fan id have to assume?

Edited by philmyco (11/27/25 06:41 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: philmyco]
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Sup guys. Anyone know the differences between the minor compounds found in ttbvi versus bisporus? Is there a place i can see real compound analysis data of baeocystin and the others?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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I have personally only seen two reports for it, one showed high amounts of norbeaocystin.  The other only traces.

Unfortunately, that was a while ago and it would take a lot of time and energy to dig them back up.  If I even could, one was linked on gordo's patreon and that got nuked.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris] * 2
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Anomalocaris said:
Sup guys. Anyone know the differences between the minor compounds found in ttbvi versus bisporus? Is there a place i can see real compound analysis data of baeocystin and the others?



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29244951#29244951

Check above thread for some results, there are links within as well to some cup results, I’m sure you can find some results for both bisporus and ttbvi in there.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: kirkeng]
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Ty. Bisporus I heard has a high that seems more peaceful I think? I wonder whats causing that


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