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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler]
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CrimsonRambeler said:
Also, there has been a cinctulus going around that, hard-wroght it may be from an exotic location, I believe to be mislabeled. No genetic sequencing on it has been done as of yet, so this fills a large basis of my belief.
There are several Panaeolus type species that've been found recently and undergone genetic study. These have been found in benign places. All the strains of cinctulus I sent came from San Diego, if any dont throw stones lmk.



I have a copelandia from India I'm working with that looks way more like cinctulis than bisporus.  Hopefully I'll get it fruited over the winter and share photos.

Also Punjabensis is pinning and SAO2 I need to try running again.  Both maybe inactive but I could see SAO2 being mistaken for cinctulis too.  Neither are Copelandia and both are seqeunced.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Im gonna start some 30l monotubs of TTBVI soon. Is it better to case after full colonization or at spawn. I would prefer at spawn but if you think its better to wait ill wait


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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If I eat enough pans I can read Mandarin


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mackload] * 2
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Checks out. I had pink eye once, and all the letters on the vision test at the urgent care morphed into squiggly chinese characters. Next time I'll just eat some pans.

Tax: MIB. Idk if it's gonna fruit, but it's been slowly trying to knot.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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And it was from a print you got from me, correct? If it was on parchment, that one is an open-capped form of the Viper strain.
Yeah there's several interesting species, I see the value in the fruit for cyanescens and the stones for cinctulus.
The chlorocystis, can you tell me the origin of that? I feel like thats a recent species like punjabensis or the diffrent species Scott is working with from Canada and California. Hmm. Is Panaeolus sp. "SA02", "south African mystery"?
I'm sure if I never obtain all the species I would feel like im missing out, but the only one I really crave is the Psilocybe maluti. Even still, despite my hankerin', I have been blessed with finding Panaeolus cinctulus f. Subsecotioides. It's even a bonus it produces sclerotia, and a double bonus it produces it as vigorously as it does!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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You can probably do alot of T1's from the spores I sent without alot of selection. Cause I know I sent alot, and I still have more to send, including a one I found in Vegas!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler] * 4
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BOB F1 ms almost ready for casing

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler] * 2
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It was on foil.

Chlorocystis was described in the 70s but wasn't found again until Scott did in 2022 I believe.  You can check it on iNat.  It only grows in Florida.

SAO2 isn't Mystery SA, but another specimen from South Africa. It looks more like cinctulis.  Again it's buried in Scott's observations as he sequenced it and posted it.

Punjabensis I believe was described and sequenced in India kinda recently.  And then someone found one in Arizona.  Also on iNat.

And man I wish folks would let maluti go.  I get that it's sektoid and it's neat but it's also sacred medicine to tribal folks which is why spores didn't go out with ingeli.  I think the West has appropriated enough shit for several generations.


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I'd be running up that road
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With no problems

Edited by tree frog (11/14/25 09:53 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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Maluti is not easy to cultivate and there's very few people hunting for them, as Tree frog has said they will most likely stay that way.

As much as we all want to spread spores and mycology across the world, there also has to be a level of respect for nature.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
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1NFIN8 said:
I’m about to take the plunge into pan cyans and have a few quick questions.

Sgfc style tub. I’m using a 36qt tub.
3” perlite?
I’m looking at a row of fae holes near the top of the tub and a row near the sub. Should the bottom row fall at the top of the perlite or the top of the trays?

I’ve got black cow for sub to work with that I’ll have to pasteurize - I’ll use a sous vide for that.

Any quick breakdown of sub ingredients that are working best right now?

Rye over wheat?

Thanks!



I'm going to answer these in reverse order.

Wheat over rye.

Pasteurized black cow is fine. I would cut it with coir for moisture and texture (50 or 75% coir).

For fruiting I'm experimenting with something simple and accessible because it's not gnat season.




I know, heating pads...  But they're not cubes and they need the heat.  Perlite and water to make a radiant heat source.  Wire rack so the sub isn't resting on warm perlite.  Refill with water when low.  No holes.

These are a little mutated but I think it's genetic (low spore pan orientation).  The conditions look fine as far as caps being in the sweet spot of not to wet or dry.  No misting.  A lot of condensation on the lid so I have to dump the water off a couple of times a day.



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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
1NFIN8 said:
I’m about to take the plunge into pan cyans and have a few quick questions.

Sgfc style tub. I’m using a 36qt tub.
3” perlite?
I’m looking at a row of fae holes near the top of the tub and a row near the sub. Should the bottom row fall at the top of the perlite or the top of the trays?

I’ve got black cow for sub to work with that I’ll have to pasteurize - I’ll use a sous vide for that.

Any quick breakdown of sub ingredients that are working best right now?

Rye over wheat?

Thanks!



I'm going to answer these in reverse order.

Wheat over rye.

Pasteurized black cow is fine. I would cut it with coir for moisture and texture (50 or 75% coir).

For fruiting I'm experimenting with something simple and accessible because it's not gnat season.




I know, heating pads...  But they're not cubes and they need the heat.  Perlite and water to make a radiant heat source.  Wire rack so the sub isn't resting on warm perlite.  Refill with water when low.  No holes.

These are a little mutated but I think it's genetic (low spore pan orientation).  The conditions look fine as far as caps being in the sweet spot of not to wet or dry.  No misting.  A lot of condensation on the lid so I have to dump the water off a couple of times a day.





Awesomeness thank you!

With no holes is your fae just from dumping the condensation then?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 1NFIN8] * 1
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The lid is cracked.  You can see how large the gap is in the first photo.

Dumping the lid is more so big drops don't fall on the substrate.

Edit:  but if you feel like drilling holes I'm sure they wouldn't mind more fae.  I'm just keeping this one simple for now because I have plans of how I'm going to drill it out once the gnats show back up.

I just wanted to see if I could do something really simple with heating pads, perlite, and water for folks trying to get into them.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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Eventually that one will look like this one.  Which is a sealed dreamer essentially.




You can see I put 1-in holes on the long side just above the perlite and stuffed them with poly.  Like an old school mono.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
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With no problems

Edited by tree frog (11/14/25 01:49 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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The perlite barrier is plenty insulating imo


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
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It's insulating but it was also drying out the substrates. If you're referring to the wire rack being needed.


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I'd make a deal with God
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I'd be running up that road
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 6
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A couple punjabensis shots.  I'm loving how the water is condensing on them. I have cyans right next to them that aren't doing that.  Could be cooler on that side, or the mushrooms are cooling themselves more. 
 
Maybe air flow.:shrug:




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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (11/14/25 03:02 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 2
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If your name is me its still gnat season



Also opening a tent 5 times a day to fight them dries your fruit out


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 7
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
This is what I have going on rn:





Update 2 days later:



I'm still seeing under developed caps. I figure it's environmental or genetic. If anyone has any tips for a path to chase, I'm all ears.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 1
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
This is what I have going on rn:





Update 2 days later:



I'm still seeing under developed caps. I figure it's environmental or genetic. If anyone has any tips for a path to chase, I'm all ears.



All I see is 9 successful and beautiful trays :awesomenod: Also, you might want to up the evaporation for better cap development.
Anyway, stellar grow Puff :vibin:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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pan noob question:
will a  tub in a big water tub or a tub with perlite not be sufficient for an excellent pan grow? does it need fan and humidifier to really work out?
do they like to be misted or rather not?

cheers


edit:
beautiful work everybody, i love this thread

Edited by chris77 (11/15/25 05:10 AM)

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