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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 8
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Kloakk said:
stagger said:
a couple cambo trays pinning, and I'm leaving for a few days....maybe they are better off without me but this is the most compelled I've ever felt to bring a tub with me:tongue:



Absolutely not, they'll miss you for sure, the thing though, they will want to impress you while you're gone, so you better be home on time.


they did!:yesnod:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 7
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2nd flush Tex clone

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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stagger said:
they did!:yesnod:



Looking stellar stagger.
:vibin:

fahtster said:
2nd flush Tex clone



Great flush faht :rockon: Are you taking clone tissue from the cap?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 6
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This is how I’m cloning.  Skin em and put to WA.  Then to a low nute CS and they’re good to go

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 7
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Interesting cloning approach for small mushrooms fahtster. Your  and coversalls posts gave me the basics for setting up my JCM-Chamber. Thanks for that.

Pic of the newest grow in it: Pan. cyanescence extinct volcano 🌋 Veracruz .

Wild print ▶️ water gar ▶️ nutrient agar ▶️ all in one jar.

The print was a bit dirty and took two weeks to germinate. Contamination was already present at this time point. A clean transfer was still possible.

Using all in one jars will be my new go to method, because the bulk process takes place in an sterile environment. That increases the chances for an successful grow.

I crumbled it in the tray without consolidation (like in treefrogs AIOJ- Tek, but with my own recipe) and put a thin casing on. Pins arrived 6 days later :mushroom2:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Magic potion] * 3
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I grew that same variety last year and currently have more jars about to be spawned. I tracked down the locality of the variety to the Naolinco Volcanic Field in Veracruz.

The print I received from the original collector was extremely clean and germinated very quickly. The collector also sent me a cinctulus print that has grown nothing but green molds though, still trying to tease out a clean culture of that one.

Your grow produced a better flush than my first attempt, I only had about a dozen fruits reach maturity as most aborted about half way to maturity.

Did your pins have unusually light caps like my grow?



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Edited by BlimeyGrimey (08/13/25 01:48 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: BlimeyGrimey] * 2
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Hey BlimeyGrimey, good luck with your current attempt :thumbup: interesting to know where they exactly come from.

Yes, they looked like this. They seem to like the mix of coir, verm and 1/2 prescribed strength 4/6/8 fertilizer to hydrate the mix.
Temp was set to 80,6 in the JCM bubbler running 24/7. Thin casing with sieved peat and verm.
I have also one jar running with shredded hemp in it to look what they like more and compare.

Also got a Ps. mexicana print from the collector which was very clean. Wild prints are a bit of gambling it seems.

Edited by Magic potion (08/13/25 02:42 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Magic potion] * 8
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Was the mexicana print labeled 'Coyopolan' ?

If so, they do well on wheat straw / verm mix. Here's my grow of them from earlier in the year.



They had sub-optimal growing conditions due to having to keep them in a simple tote with perlite half way through growing. My martha tent was down due to being in the middle of a move when they started to pin. They grew oddly in the tote.



I have another bag of them currently on day 17 in the martha tent. Last time it took 21 days from casing to pin.

Nice to see someone else growing some of the same new vareities/localities to compare notes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: BlimeyGrimey] * 13
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Couple more Tex clones 2nd flush


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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Yes it is the Coyopolan variety of Ps. mexicana. Good to know they like straw, because an all in one jar with shredded hemph is ready to fruit soon. Due to space limitations in the fruiting chamber this will take some time. If successful, I will post  in the stone producer thread soon.

Did you already bio assay mexicana? I think it has a super interesting history. Reports of this species are very sparse. How do they compare to Pan. cyanescence?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 3
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fahtster said:
Couple more Tex clones 2nd flush




This is so fucking bad ass.

It has been awhile since I had a grow that kicked out fruits at a proper size like this.
I am doing some experiments, but my hypothesis is that I am not getting enough water into the initial sub. I think you
were talking about this very thing the other day, but maybe I am wrong.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura] * 2
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Yeah it’s been a bit of a balancing act.  I had problems with over hydrating when spawning.  The problem was I forgot my CV is already at FC and I was thinking it was dry for some reason.  So when I hydrated the mix, I added way too much water and just went with it.  I even saw that my vac bags were getting too much water sucked up towards the top and ignored it for some reason.  So now I’m paying way more attention and getting them at least close (slightly over FC is ok because I’m hand squeezing each tray’s mix before spawning).

This is great for colonizing but they need more water for fruiting so I’m making sure I soak the casing very well and once they start regrowing into the casing, I’m wetting again (not as much as the initial soaking) and then keeping them nice and moist til pins and syringe watering once pins are a decent size based on how heavy the tray feels.  I didn’t need to do this during the winter/spring but it’s been so hot here that I think evaporation is in high gear

I also think that heavy overlay producing vars like Tex retains a lot of water in that overlay layer which helps with evaporation but it takes longer for the water to be absorbed

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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Yeah, I've totally overhydrated before with AIO bags and the myc will usually
just drown. But I think you do want to go a little over field capacity, generally :shrug:
Problem is, it's a real fine line. I've just been taking more time
working the water into the sub and that seems to help - harder to overshoot.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
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I wonder about misting with grain washings which have een soaking in the fridge?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Magic potion] * 3
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Magic potion said:
Did you already bio assay mexicana? I think it has a super interesting history. Reports of this species are very sparse. How do they compare to Pan. cyanescence?




I only microdose these days, and I haven't yet taken any microdoses of the mexicana yet.

I might try a "macro" dose of the sclerotia from my current mexicana bag later this year. Maybe on/around Halloween.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: anders]
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anders said:
I wonder about misting with grain washings which have een soaking in the fridge?



Do you mean misting with the water from soaking grains? I couldn't possibly give you a definitive answer but it sounds like a bad idea to introduce more eventually (most likely) contaminated water with nutrients added on your sub/casing! I think you activate the endospores in the grain when you soak them and throwing that on your sub night not be good.

But as I said I'm unsure since the sub is more resistant at the point where you mist but it just feels like a big risk from my perspective.

Would you mind telling me what you think would be beneficial about doing this? I'm rather curious now


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 4
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Grain soak water doesn't take long to become a smelly, bacterial mess..... perfect for misting right?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv]
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SkanskKorv said:
anders said:
I wonder about misting with grain washings which have een soaking in the fridge?



Do you mean misting with the water from soaking grains? I couldn't possibly give you a definitive answer but it sounds like a bad idea to introduce more eventually (most likely) contaminated water with nutrients added on your sub/casing! I think you activate the endospores in the grain when you soak them and throwing that on your sub night not be good.

But as I said I'm unsure since the sub is more resistant at the point where you mist but it just feels like a big risk from my perspective.

Would you mind telling me what you think would be beneficial about doing this? I'm rather curious now


I thought adding nutrients.  But sounds more likely adding contaminents.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: anders]
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My limited understanding is that anything with nutrients must be pasteurized or sterilized depending on application.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: anders]
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anders said:
SkanskKorv said:
anders said:
I wonder about misting with grain washings which have een soaking in the fridge?



Do you mean misting with the water from soaking grains? I couldn't possibly give you a definitive answer but it sounds like a bad idea to introduce more eventually (most likely) contaminated water with nutrients added on your sub/casing! I think you activate the endospores in the grain when you soak them and throwing that on your sub night not be good.

But as I said I'm unsure since the sub is more resistant at the point where you mist but it just feels like a big risk from my perspective.

Would you mind telling me what you think would be beneficial about doing this? I'm rather curious now


I thought adding nutrients.  But sounds more likely adding contaminents.



Bingo! I also used to believe adding nutrients could be beneficial but honestly the nutrients should already be in the sub well before you start the misting process, you just maintain surface conditions by misting to keep it from drying out so you really don't want anything else than water as far as I know bro.


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