BeefSupremeJr said:

pretty standard for semps.  they keep growing long after the cap opens.  they dont seem to really have veils.

anyway ya, keep going.  you should have a finished tub in.. oh... id say 2 or three years.

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ThurmanMurman said:

It's a good thing my gf has convinced me that size doesn't matter, or I might be a little ashamed of this.

First pan grow - at least I got somethin.🤷‍♂️

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tree frog said:

If the casing is completely saturated, there's no air and they stall.  So, oxygen does have a role.  If there's to much co2, and you cased in open air, you'll encourage mold.  If the rH isn't very high, some species won't grow into the casing (some will, and if they do it a lot we call it overlay).

So, fae is a factor.  But it's mostly the rH and how that interacts with genetics hat determines if they stay vegetative (colonize) or not.

At least, that's my understanding.  Though they need more oxygen to fruit, they dont need high co2.  Just, oxygen and rH tend to compete.  So, it usually works out to be high co2.

And yeah, I'm basically casing with substrate.  We call it a top layer around here.  But folks cased button mushrooms with dirt before peat became a thing.  So top layer at spawn and colonize with the lid on, light casing with peat and into fruiting.

We'll see after I do about ten more tests if I go back to colonizing the casing.  But after playing with casings for the last couple of years and watching how other people apply them (especially Mojave, who I learned this from), I think this is pretty simple effective, and doesn't require a lot of peat based casing.

It also puts more nitrogen close to the surface, which I imagine helps the colony.

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I see, guess since I case with 40% cactus soil I already have a good amount of nitrogen close to the surface? What is the depth of the top layer you apply at spawning?

But yeah, guess humidity and O2 levels will interact with each other and genetics is a factor as well. Thanks again Tree. I'll definitely try doing a top layer, not sure I can go any lower on casing depth though, I'm already down to 1,5-2cm

YoshiTrainer said:

@PsiloPsychin, just like riding a bike for you! Have fun on your trip!

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Nate em All said:

will birds get high and die if I feed them or should I just bury my contammed grains lol

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Dala said:

That's a pretty pic Thurman, they look precious Is that the same tray you posted 10 days ago?  Might just be me but seems like they're takin' their sweet ass time!

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tree frog said:

For the top layer, kloakk, I'm just trying to get the visible grain mostly covered. And then when I case, I'm trying to get the mycelium mostly covered.

So, it's less about measuring depth and more visual.  But, very thin on both essentially.

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Fair enough, I can't just eyeball things yet, need more experience and a tighter leash on my OCD(self diagnosed), but I'll get there some day Thanks

tree frog said:

Been chatting with catnip and a few other folks on discord about monos and mushroom breeding.

Turns out, mycelium will sector more and even revert to monos on low nutrient plates.

Bisporus clones aren't doing as well as I hoped.  Slow to pin and not many of them so far.  So I think I'm going to start running pans on 0.1% agar, at least on early transfers and germination.

Not sure bispo will make monos like this, since they start off as dikaryons.  But maybe I can snag some isolates rather than messing around with clones.

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Kloakk said:

I've got MiB RS on popcorn that soon will be ready to spawn, I was wondering what ratio spawn to sub y'all are doing

If there is anything else I should know regarding substrate and/or casing for this variety, please let me know, I've only done Bisporus and TTBVI so far.

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strawboy said:

I have Bisporus on agar now. How would you compare to TTBVI?

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Kloakk said:

strawboy said:

I have Bisporus on agar now. How would you compare to TTBVI?

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