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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: misterswisher] * 2
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Have you used that bucket for anything other than coir? If there was ever something like grain or manure in that bucket and you put coir in it without a thorough wash, then that's probably how you got mold. Ive been adding coir to the same bucket for the last year and haven't had anything grow in it. 🤷‍♂️


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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3 years using the same 2 buckets for coir. Never washed them. No mold.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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@tree frog

Alright then I'll snap the lid on the fc, that's the best I can do for now since these trays don't have any lids. The casing has already started to colonise a tiny bit so I'll leave it for a couple of days until it looks like the picture you showed me. I didn't do this last time, could this have been a contributing factor to why I only got a few clusters of TTBVI? :um:


@kloakk

Well that's lovely to hear because I'd need some tips on brewing actually!
:leocheers:

I have never tried it but wanted to do so for a long time. I love alcohol but I hate alcohol prices in Scandinavia... It's absolutely ridiculous. Is it hard to brew Mead? I'm a total sucker for that shit :naughty:

Well you're lucky then ecaue that's what I'm currently doing with mushies... I'm so obsessed that my gf is completely bummed out oftenly because I'm reading so much information that I just have to share it even though she doesn't understand shit and she keeps giving me this look thinking "what's wrong with him?" :yeahthatsright:every time I say something because I can't stop yapping about it even though I want to... It's even worse when I'm on shrooms because I do the same but more and waaaaay faster and way more intense until my brain just melts:crazy2: I'm also currently using an entire room in a 3 room apartment for my shrooms and it's off limits to her because she's filthy:naughty: and I've also spent a ridiculous amount of money so far.

I feel ya. I also need to pace down and I have done so but just like 15% or so, the dopamine high is way too strong. I've got way too many spores to work with now (many of them thanks to you❤️), so many that I just don't have enough Petri dishes at the moment and I'll need tons of dishes to make transfers for all these which is why I've set my eyes on just a few varieties (TTBVI, bisporus, ochra and last but not least the semps and a couple of others you sent me including those cool toque f8:wow:)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Sorry had to go back to work but it was a cat litter bucket I dumped boiling water in. Sanitized pretty well and used for a few runs.

This coir I got off Amazon instead of from the pet store. I’m thinking that’s the culprit.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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That’s what this was like 3 batches worth just what’s on the bottom. Should have never seen nutrition except maybe grains under my finger nails. I think some brands aren’t 100% like claimed and have bits of coconut like tree frog said. Or any sort of biological matter.

Maybe I’ll dig through the mold later and see if there’s any evidence of something that can sustain it


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: misterswisher] * 7
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Getting ready to spawn my first ever jars of Bisporus tomorrow :rockon:



Question: I'm curious how long you guys left a colonized jar of pans before spawning before?

Edited by Puduwoke (06/17/25 04:09 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: misterswisher]
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misterswisher said:
That’s what this was like 3 batches worth just what’s on the bottom. Should have never seen nutrition except maybe grains under my finger nails. I think some brands aren’t 100% like claimed and have bits of coconut like tree frog said. Or any sort of biological matter.

Maybe I’ll dig through the mold later and see if there’s any evidence of something that can sustain it


Fwiw, ecoearth from the pet store has caused me problems, which is why I switched to cocobliss. I've seen others mention it as well. 🤷‍♂️


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 2
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Oh ttbvi probably won't ever look exactly like that.  The photo was for bisporus.

Faht has been doing two or three days at room temperature for the casing before moving to higher temperatures.  Said it seems to help with overlay with things prone to it.  TTBVI would fall into that.

I'm adopting his strategy and apologize if I forgot to mention the temperature shift earlier.  It's important in many gourmet species and I think we're seeing something similar with many species of tropical pans.

Bisporus has never overlaid on me.  But it also grows in a tad cooler climates than cyans and other closely related species.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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all I've ever used is eco earth:shrug:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 4
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Daily update on my moldy tray

Btw this is just two capfuls of worm casting liquid added to the cv and spawned 1:3
We’ll see if they make it to maturity. My spore supply is low on these


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger]
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stagger said:
all I've ever used is eco earth:shrug:


I ground garbage of some kind and seeds that sprouted. Luck of the draw, I guess. Cocobliss is about the same price, doesn't give me problems, and holds more water. Was in an easy decision. Obviously, if it aint broke, dont fix it. 🤙


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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the shop right by me still has the 3 bricks for less than $10, it's just always been easiest, but I don't use it all so much.  substrates are mostly straw /compost......what is this holds more water you speak of?  a noticeable amount?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: stagger] * 1
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stagger said:
the shop right by me still has the 3 bricks for less than $10, it's just always been easiest, but I don't use it all so much.  substrates are mostly straw /compost......what is this holds more water you speak of?  a noticeable amount?


Eco is considered to hold 3.5ml/g at field capacity and cocobliss is something like 4.2-4.4, iirc. I usually run it at 4.2 but Ive done 4.4 plenty when I first switched to coco.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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So in conclusion I did some research. That bucket only had eco earth in it because this new brand I did in a different bucket. I dug around and found a few wood chips. I’m guessing that can be the cause of the mold?

But it was eco earth. So if coir really can’t sustain mold growth I’d blame the brand 🤷🏻‍♂️


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: misterswisher] * 1
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First attempt with the slow cooker did not go well. Set it at 150f and checked it 3 hours later to find the substrate at 180f. The good news is that the temperature seemed to be consistent throughout, so if I can get it dialed in it should work without stirring.

Going to try using the keep warm function from the get go rather than the low setting for the next attempt.

I did find this post, so I'm not the first person to try it:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17529462

This person sets the temp and unplugs the machine once it gets to temperature. I'd rather not have to monitor temperature so it is truly set and forget, but if that's what is necessary so be it. I'd like to use this for Semps, and the guide I'm following calls for a long pasteurization time. Hoping the keep warm works. I'll post again whenever I try again.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Oh ttbvi probably won't ever look exactly like that.  The photo was for bisporus.

Faht has been doing two or three days at room temperature for the casing before moving to higher temperatures.  Said it seems to help with overlay with things prone to it.  TTBVI would fall into that.

I'm adopting his strategy and apologize if I forgot to mention the temperature shift earlier.  It's important in many gourmet species and I think we're seeing something similar with many species of tropical pans.

Bisporus has never overlaid on me.  But it also grows in a tad cooler climates than cyans and other closely related species.


Oh shit... I didn't reflect over the fact that you're showing bispo either so I understand now that it won't look the same since TTBVI seems to have a much thicker mycelium.

Which temperatures would it be that I need to shift between? I can't get my room lower than 75f at the moment and sometimes it's hard to keep it above 68f.

I didn't get any bad overlay last time when I used straight verm but perhaps the cactus soil has a higher risk of it?

Next up is bisporus though! I've got 2 clean looking plates from the spores stagger sent me and those are probably the cleanest spores I have used on agar so far. 2/3 plates looked clean at inoculation as far as I could see but I used those to transfer the most healthy looking mycelium on there to T1 plates and those are now 50% colonised.

My question about bisporus is about the speed of growth. My sketchy TTBVI plates outgrew them a lot, about twice as fast, but they're TTBVI and that mycelium is just fucking mad fast which makes me think this is perfectly normal but I'll rather be safe than sorry so is it normal for bispos to be rather slow or could I have a potential bacterial contamination?

I'll post pictures of it later on today


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 2
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First time I'm growing Bisporus as well but they were much slower for me on agar. Also on grains they took about 16 days to fully colonized the jars:shrug:

I expect them to take twice as long to pin as well


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SkanskKorv] * 1
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I wouldn't stress bisporus being slow.  I don't generally notice it being slower than cyans, but my lab is a lot cooler than yours.

TTBVI isn't going to always overlay.  It's going to depend on the culture.  Not sure on cactus soil making a difference or not.

If you can't get your temperature down, don't stress it.  But, I think doing colonization around 70f and introducing fruiting around 75-80f, would be more natural for their lifecycle.  And help them switch from vegetative growth to fruiting.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Tree did you ever fruit Bispo around 80f?

Can't get temps any lower in my apartment during summer. Spawning 4 trays today:rockon:

On another note. Before I always PH tested my casing before pasteurization. The other day I did it for the first time ever after and got 7 PH. This could be a reason for my casing colonizing right? Using peat and verm btw:takingnotes:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
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Yeah, 7.5-8 might be better on the casing if you're having issues with overlay.

I think I've fruited bispo at 80f.  If not definitely upper 70s.


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