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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Axman said:
Sillysighbean said:
Your life is worth more than a couple hundred bucks. Throw that shit away



Also let me be clear, I'm not advocating for using a warped PC, it is dangerous, throw it out, I'm just saying mine still works :shrug:



Ya! I’m with ya. Everything I’m reading says don’t do it. I just hate tossing something like this and spending another $130. I literally use this thing two or three times a month or more. If I’m making pickles & sauce I’ll use it constantly all weekend long, 3-4x a day! Ugh!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Harpo67] * 1
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Harpo67 said:
TY. Then why am I see people using bolts to keep the round piece higher up off the bottom of the cooker?



If you’re doing agar in media bottles or grain bags, you don’t want them sitting in the water. The media bottles will float and tilt, because they are not filled all the way. The grain bags, you don’t want sitting in the water. If you raise up the baseplate you won’t fit 10 quart jars in the pc. If you are only PC’ing 7 or 8 jars then you can raise the jars above the water line. However, as others have said, it is ok for a small portion of the jars to be in the water, just not on the bottom of the pot. They will break and or burn if they are on the bottom with no space between the bottom of the pot and the jar bottoms.

Edit: I use the left one for media bottles, the right one for grain jars.


Edited by AZ Starman2112 (06/02/25 11:16 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Harpo67] * 2
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Harpo67 said:
TY. Then why am I see people using bolts to keep the round piece higher up off the bottom of the cooker?



:whathesaid:
Also he's using the 23qt, I'm fairly certain you can only fit 7 in a 16qt.

The point of raising the trivet, is to keep stuff out of the water like if you are pasteurising substrate, using bags, etc.

AZ Starman2112 said:
Ya! I’m with ya. Everything I’m reading says don’t do it. I just hate tossing something like this and spending another $130. I literally use this thing two or three times a month or more. If I’m making pickles & sauce I’ll use it constantly all weekend long, 3-4x a day! Ugh!



I mean you don't have to throw it out throw it out, it'll still be a solid stock pot if you want to make an obscene amount of chili/stew :hehehe:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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Thank you for the reply. I will wait a few more days, and if nothing happens, I will moisten the bag. And if still nothing happens, I will also moisten the mycelium.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 3
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Morning all! So am I fucked here or what?

Yesterday I PC’d 10 grain jars. Did everything my normal way. Literally use this Presto 23 for everything. Mush cult & canning pickles & sauces. Yesterday for some reason the bottom bowed out (pic below). It’s 16 months old. When I opened it, it had only 2/3’rds of a cup of water left in it. Never saw this before, usually I have quite a bit of water left in it. Filled it with the normal 3 quarts of water and then I ran it two hours after venting 10 mins and then reaching 15 psi. Do I toss this pot, or just use it as is, or try and tap it back flat with a block of wood and a rubber mallet? I’ve put sauté pans and skillets back into shape with a block of wood and a rubber mallet, but they aren’t under pressure when in use. So am I fucked here or what?





Beyond fucked.  Throw it out, and when you do drill a couple of holes in it so no one else ever tries to use it.  That is EXTREMELY compromised now and is a bomb waiting to happen.  Given how warped it is you got super lucky.

You cannot fix a pressure holding vessel like a PC when it warps that bad, especially since we're dealing with aluminum here.  Any warping at all means it's done and should be thrown out, even a slight bow in the bottom.  This is a few miles beyond that.


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"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RasenderRon]
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RasenderRon said:


Hey guys my first mushroom is ready to be harvested he just tore the veil over night but i all of them are pretty white and a little smaller than expected. Could these be albino B+ or did the vendor mixed up the spores. I used a spore syringe to grain bag. And should i harvest all of them now or just get the biggest one out? And what do you think about the fuzziness on the feed all good or to much from what i saw it should be normal right?
Thanks in advance :wink:



Cubes have a lot of variation in them, starting any cubes from spore is a genetic gable about what comes out the other side.  Vendors often produce spores from original cultures that have a lot less genetic bottlenecking in them, so there's a higher likelihood of variability.  This is good, since it gives you more to select from as a grower.

As others have said, you never want to go directly spores to grain.  If you want to grow using grain spawn then it's time to learn how to use agar.  Trust me, you really want to know how to use agar, it is the one skill that is absolutely key to all points in this hobby.

Also, I'd give those another day or so before harvest, none are mature yet.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
AZ Starman2112 said:
Morning all! So am I fucked here or what?

Yesterday I PC’d 10 grain jars. Did everything my normal way. Literally use this Presto 23 for everything. Mush cult & canning pickles & sauces. Yesterday for some reason the bottom bowed out (pic below). It’s 16 months old. When I opened it, it had only 2/3’rds of a cup of water left in it. Never saw this before, usually I have quite a bit of water left in it. Filled it with the normal 3 quarts of water and then I ran it two hours after venting 10 mins and then reaching 15 psi. Do I toss this pot, or just use it as is, or try and tap it back flat with a block of wood and a rubber mallet? I’ve put sauté pans and skillets back into shape with a block of wood and a rubber mallet, but they aren’t under pressure when in use. So am I fucked here or what?





Beyond fucked.  Throw it out, and when you do drill a couple of holes in it so no one else ever tries to use it.  That is EXTREMELY compromised now and is a bomb waiting to happen.  Given how warped it is you got super lucky.

You cannot fix a pressure holding vessel like a PC when it warps that bad, especially since we're dealing with aluminum here.  Any warping at all means it's done and should be thrown out, even a slight bow in the bottom.  This is a few miles beyond that.



You don’t have to convince me brother! I’m not chancing it. Though I might tap the bottom flat and take it up to the hunting cabin for a stock pot. Axman had a valid point! It could serve out its life for venison chili or stew, soups and boiling pasta for big dinners.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 1
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If you do maybe cut off the sealing latches or something else to prevent it from being used as a PC again.  You never know who will get a hold of it in the future and not know that it's not safe, especially if you tap it back into place :thumbup:


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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Mr Piggy said:
If you do maybe cut off the sealing latches or something else to prevent it from being used as a PC again.  You never know who will get a hold of it in the future and not know that it's not safe, especially if you tap it back into place :thumbup:



Agreed, cut the latches or drill a small hole in the side of it towards the top, then it will never hold pressure.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 1
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Actually I’d toss the lid and I have a small engraver that I could write on it “do not pressurize”. It’s only a few of us up there, so with no lid, ain’t nobody gonna use it for pressurizing. I’m one of the only one who cooks anything worthwhile there soooooo….

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman]
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Yo does anyone have an explanation or link to one about why we are supposed to put foil over lids of things in the pressure cooker?

I’m specifically looking at agar in a 500 ml media bottle. I poured agar a week ago and was very careful with pouring in my SAB, followed Bod’s videos to a t, closed all windows and turned off all fans/ac and hour before pouring, showered ~30 mins before.

All the plates are contammed, they look like little drops evenly dispersed across the surface of the agar, clear but I can see thin trails leading out of the drops so probably bacteria (sorry no pics rn, I’ll post later).

The only thing I can think is that I didn’t cover the lid of the bottle during sterilization, just left the lid slightly unscrewed, so I’m trying to track down what went wrong. Could leaving the lid uncovered lead to contams? Or was I just not careful enough with pouring?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 3
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Actually I’d toss the lid and I have a small engraver that I could write on it “do not pressurize”. It’s only a few of us up there, so with no lid, ain’t nobody gonna use it for pressurizing. I’m one of the only one who cooks anything worthwhile there soooooo….



Save the lid components for your new presto then, like the gauge, handles, and rubber seal.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande] * 1
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ElGringoGrande said:
Yo does anyone have an explanation or link to one about why we are supposed to put foil over lids of things in the pressure cooker?

I’m specifically looking at agar in a 500 ml media bottle. I poured agar a week ago and was very careful with pouring in my SAB, followed Bod’s videos to a t, closed all windows and turned off all fans/ac and hour before pouring, showered ~30 mins before.

All the plates are contammed, they look like little drops evenly dispersed across the surface of the agar, clear but I can see thin trails leading out of the drops so probably bacteria (sorry no pics rn, I’ll post later).

The only thing I can think is that I didn’t cover the lid of the bottle during sterilization, just left the lid slightly unscrewed, so I’m trying to track down what went wrong. Could leaving the lid uncovered lead to contams? Or was I just not careful enough with pouring?



What was your source for plates? Did you have a lot of condensation? Sometimes drops will fall and cause contamination for some people.

Also good practice for when you are getting into agar is to leave a plate without inoculating it as a control to see if youre having issues from your sterilization process.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande]
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ElGringoGrande said:
Yo does anyone have an explanation or link to one about why we are supposed to put foil over lids of things in the pressure cooker?

I’m specifically looking at agar in a 500 ml media bottle. I poured agar a week ago and was very careful with pouring in my SAB, followed Bod’s videos to a t, closed all windows and turned off all fans/ac and hour before pouring, showered ~30 mins before.

All the plates are contammed, they look like little drops evenly dispersed across the surface of the agar, clear but I can see thin trails leading out of the drops so probably bacteria (sorry no pics rn, I’ll post later).

The only thing I can think is that I didn’t cover the lid of the bottle during sterilization, just left the lid slightly unscrewed, so I’m trying to track down what went wrong. Could leaving the lid uncovered lead to contams? Or was I just not careful enough with pouring?



I do not foil my media bottles in the pc. I turn the caps until they seat, then back them off about 3/4 of a turn and into the pc they go. They stay in the pc until cool enough to use them. I follow D3’s agar tek, which I just linked to in the agar thread for someone else. However, out of over 300 plates now poured, I’ve only had two contaminate before using them for inoculation. I know this is a silly question, but are you using sterile plates?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 3
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Axman said:
AZ Starman2112 said:
Actually I’d toss the lid and I have a small engraver that I could write on it “do not pressurize”. It’s only a few of us up there, so with no lid, ain’t nobody gonna use it for pressurizing. I’m one of the only one who cooks anything worthwhile there soooooo….



Save the lid components for your new presto then, like the gauge, handles, and rubber seal.



This is why I like you man!

:wellhello::rollsafe:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ElGringoGrande]
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ElGringoGrande said:
Yo does anyone have an explanation or link to one about why we are supposed to put foil over lids of things in the pressure cooker?

I’m specifically looking at agar in a 500 ml media bottle. I poured agar a week ago and was very careful with pouring in my SAB, followed Bod’s videos to a t, closed all windows and turned off all fans/ac and hour before pouring, showered ~30 mins before.

All the plates are contammed, they look like little drops evenly dispersed across the surface of the agar, clear but I can see thin trails leading out of the drops so probably bacteria (sorry no pics rn, I’ll post later).

The only thing I can think is that I didn’t cover the lid of the bottle during sterilization, just left the lid slightly unscrewed, so I’m trying to track down what went wrong. Could leaving the lid uncovered lead to contams? Or was I just not careful enough with pouring?



i really sucked so bad at pouring in a sab i found no pour works real well in a sab :headbang3:i still use no pour :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 5
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I feel you, I’m typically camp cook too.  I’m often the first to tag out so I try to make sure buddies come back to a clean camp and hot food.

Weird the random correlation between being the earliest to get up (4am) and being the first to tag out.  Too bad it’s completely random and we’ll never know. :lol:


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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I wrapped my media bottles for an extra layer between depressurizing/vacuum but mainly for the removal and tightening, since I don't carry my PC downstairs to the lab.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I am hydrating some coir as I type this. Will I need both quarts of grain spawn for this 20 quart bin? Pretty sure I need 3 to 1 and 4 quarts seems like it would be pretty close to covering bottom up to the holes.

Wouldn't mind a link to a tek to eventually fruit in this 20 quart bin. Advice is appreciated.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Harpo67] * 1
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if you use one of those jars mixed with enough field-cap coir to fill the tub to near the bottom of those fae holes, you should have a nice grow.  if you only have/want one tub, use both and do the same.  generally speaking you're looking for between a 1:1 and 1:4 or 1:4.5  ratio for spawn:coir grows.

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