kirkeng said:

Hey I apologize if my stepping in made you feel undermined it was not the intention, I can recognize how it could have came across antagonizing truly.

I have no agenda besides trying to understand where people are coming from plain and simple. I really don’t care that you dislike jars that’s none of my business, I disagree with the assertion that jars offer less visibility than bags but we’ll have to agree to disagree on that. I take the stance of if you have a bag of dirt or a jar of dirt it’s all just dirt at the end of the day

I don’t appreciate the hostility nor the reference to my wife, if you’re going to do that at least get the facts right… “k-wife” the fuck are you on? I’m not dull either I get the reference but it’s not relevant to the topic at hand, nor is it the full story.

Look at the end of the day I’m just trying to understand in case there’s something I’m misinformed on, in this case I don’t think there is and we simply disagree that’s fine I’m not bothered by that.

But hey good talk thanks for the information.

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Apology accepted, and I hope you can accept mine too.

Jakeoncid419 said:

The brown colored pan jams are cambo


There are also pan cyan jams but they have a more traditional pan cyan pheno


Then the pan Trop rdu was originally mislabeled as pan cyan but it’s actually tropicalis

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HOLY FUCKKKK


Blue's spirit arises from your fine work, Jake

ps,
Dealing with a nasty episode of asthma as i'm typing this but your post left me in pure awe.. thank you for this

Also THANK YOU for the much needed clarification on the pan cyan RDU being pan tropicalis.

astra said:

Just one measly wave...Lord almighty



Time for more Amish Voodoo

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tree frog said:

astra said:

Just one measly wave...Lord almighty



Time for more Amish Voodoo

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We turn shit into gold around here and I'm sorry I was being shitty.

Love you sister.

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There she is, my favorite alchemist, i love you too Sister

ps,
I was being Cersei (mega shitty) again, i need more public beatings and chanting 'shame, shame, shame...'

Jakeoncid419 said:

The brown colored pan jams are cambo


There are also pan cyan jams but they have a more traditional pan cyan pheno


Then the pan Trop rdu was originally mislabeled as pan cyan but it’s actually tropicalis

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GnomeEra said:

I am new to Pans. This went from print ----> agar ----> T1 -----> T2 and looked totally clean when they went to grain. They started out on the grain at a decent speed, then let them go probably too long before the shake. It has been almost a week since the shake and they are looking a little weak. I understand Pans can do this sometimes. Could be bacterial, could be that it just didn't like being shaken. What do you think?




Today they went to shoe boxes. I didn't feel like getting out the leaf shredder after dark to chop straw, so I used straw pellets (maybe a mistake, but I guess we will see). 1:1:1 Black Kow: Straw Pellets: Verm, pastuerized in the instant pot Keep Warm setting for 4-5 hours and left to cool in there overnight. I did notice that when I got the mix to the dryer end of field capacity, the sub became kind of paste-like. It was super pliable, but really stuck to itself. Squeezing it let go of almost no water, just a tiny drop. Do you guys think straw pellets would be detrimental? 



One additional question I have about Pans. I notice a lot of people seem to prefer rye grain with this species. Milo is what I had on hand and ready to use at the time. Rye is kind of harder to get where I am and more expensive if you do find it. All I have around right now is Milo, Oats, and White Millet. Is there a reason rye seems to be the go-to grain?

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So this questionable spawn finally started pinning on straw pellet/poo/verm sub. I don't think I would use straw pellets as a shortcut as a repeat, but I am encouraged that it appears to have worked. The pic is a little blurry because it's taken from outside the dreamer tub, but there are several clusters forming!

tree frog said:

I think we've both been beating each other and ourselves up enough for one week   I hope in the morning both of us feel much better.

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