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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Adas] * 1
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Cloning some lion's mane that liked my crappy conditions.

@Melgo I would say use your best judgment. I have eaten some outdoor shiitake that was definitely past its prime. I just cut off the bad spots and sauted it up. If it smells bad I wouldn't eat it.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: JW123] * 2
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Adas said:
Shiitake on chips? Wow.

I'd say definitely not safe to eat. Too rotten.


JW123 said:
@Melgo I would say use your best judgment. I have eaten some outdoor shiitake that was definitely past its prime. I just cut off the bad spots and sauted it up. If it smells bad I wouldn't eat it.


Thanks for the replies guys. It wasn't rotten (just a small part) and it smelled great, but I didn't tempt it - Life's too insane right now!


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Melgo]
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Just got in to this hobby(2 months), right now I have 4 jars colonizing. It's been 6 days since inoculation with agar. I have a couple of questions.

First off, is it clean?
Second, is blue oyster mycelium supposed to look this thin and wispy?
Third, I checked and made sure 5-8 random grains was fully hydrated before PC, but the oats looks dry, are they?
And last, if all is looking good, is it time to shake?

Thanks.





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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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All looks good to me. I think now is a good time to shake. What kind of substrate do you have in mind?

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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I haven't ran blue but several of my gourmet cultures get thicker after the shake (I think you can shake those now btw).

To your other question, they look to be running great!  I'd say that's a good indication your grains are on point.

Fake edit: dave beat me to it but have my second opinion anyway


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: tree frog]
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deadmandave said:
All looks good to me. I think now is a good time to shake. What kind of substrate do you have in mind?


That is awesome news, thank you :dancer: I was thinking fuel pellets.


tree frog said:
I haven't ran blue but several of my gourmet cultures get thicker after the shake (I think you can shake those now btw).

To your other question, they look to be running great!  I'd say that's a good indication your grains are on point.

Fake edit: dave beat me to it but have my second opinion anyway


I really appreciate a second opinion, it's kind of overwhelming getting in to this hobby, so any help I get is gold, thanks.
:awesomenod:


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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growing LM for the first time and getting fruits but the yields seem a lot smaller than what I see on here. Substrate is HWFP w/ no supplements, gonna try to experiment with adding soy hulls and see if that helps. Also trying to get humidity dialed in with a humidifier in a makeshift grow tent cause the fruits I do have are looking a little yellow/dry. Any tips for better yields?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: squigglez]
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Cross post from the Quick Questions/Quick Answers thread:

QQ: How does this jar look? Ganoderma lucidum on BRF puck, inoculated with vendor LC (just a few drops) on Nov. 29th. I've never dealt with reishi before, so I'm not sure if it looks right. And the "fancy" jar isn't helping visibility much.





Thanks for your help!


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: KlarnEvil9] * 1
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Looks good. Are you going to use it to inoculate a larger substrate? Reishi mycelium will often turn yellow and brown when it starts fruiting so be ready for that.

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: deadmandave]
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deadmandave said:
Looks good. Are you going to use it to inoculate a larger substrate? Reishi mycelium will often turn yellow and brown when it starts fruiting so be ready for that.


Thank you for your reply!!! That tip about the mycelium changing colors will come in very handy, I didn't know that.

This jar (and one more) are basically to test the cleanliness of the LC syringe, but if it goes well I will likely use it to knock up some rye jars.

Or is there a better grain for cultivating Ganoderma?

And once my grain jars are colonized, can I use straight coir for bulk substrate? Or something else entirely?

(sorry for all the Qs!)


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: KlarnEvil9]
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got trich on a few HWFP bags of LM. does this mean it wasn't pasteurized all the way? I cut open the bags once it started fruiting but it might not have been fully colonized cause I heard LM can fruit prematurely. any advice on not getting trich on sawdust or thoughts on what went wrong?


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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: squigglez] * 1
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Haven't seen reishi on coir but it will likely work. Sawdust or wood chips would be better. Rye is great, most any grain will do for spawn.

Squig, possibly insufficient or over pasteurization, what was your method?

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Re: The Gourmet Cultivation Discussion Thread [Re: deadmandave]
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Anyone trynna send some gourmet samples my way? it would be much appreciated :smile:

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Hickory Substrate [Re: Mycovelli]
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Any experience with Hickory fuel pellets as a substrate? I usually use oak or a oak blend of pellets, and have good results.

Hickory is $15/40lb on amazon now, which is the cheapest I can have delivered


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Re: Hickory Substrate [Re: space.madness]
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So my blue oyster bags has been going for 11 days, when I checked in on the bags today I noticed some weird growth on 2 of them, I tried searching, but couldn't find anything that looked similar to what I am seeing with my bags. Anyone know what it is and why it's happening?



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Re: Hickory Substrate [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Looks to me like it's trying to fruit in the bag.


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Re: Hickory Substrate [Re: Phaethon]
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Phaethon said:
Looks to me like it's trying to fruit in the bag.


The 2 bags that have this does look to be fully colonized. I was thinking that I cut the corners on the top of the bag, wrap the top under the bag and use tape to seal it under itself, cut som slits, and introduce fruiting condition, but before I do I would appreciate any feedback :strokebeard:


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Re: Hickory Substrate [Re: Kloakk]
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Yes it's fruiting already. The plan is good. Just do it soon as your bags are already fruiting. Personally I would take all that visible growth inside the bag off and wait for new primordia, as it's already grown that much that it affects the outcome. But you can also slit the bag from where the growth is and continue those fruits, might get a bit deformed fruits though.

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Re: Hickory Substrate [Re: spasm666]
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spasm666 said:
Yes it's fruiting already. The plan is good. Just do it soon as your bags are already fruiting. Personally I would take all that visible growth inside the bag off and wait for new primordia, as it's already grown that much that it affects the outcome. But you can also slit the bag from where the growth is and continue those fruits, might get a bit deformed fruits though.


Crap, okay, so if I where to remove them, do I just put my hand inside the bag? Don't have a flow hood and my SAB is not high enough so would be doing it in open air. Thanks.

Edit: Yeah.... There where no chance of removing the growth and it was to many of them to make slits all over. What I did was  fold the bags and tape them and made slits where I want them to pin. At this point I am trying to see if I can get fruits so my FC is JCM's watertub without a heater and it's at 80% humidity. It's far from ideal, but it is what it is I guess :facepalm3:





Another question, the 2 other bags I have also have(really small) primordia, but they are not 100% colonized, what do I do?

Edited by Kloakk (12/26/24 08:43 AM)

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Spawn [Re: Kloakk]
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Hi all, I’m new to gourmet…will be starting shiitake, golden and pink oyster on agar tomorrow. I understand HWFP/sawdust or wheat bran has been an acceptable substrate for a small setup, though I’m having trouble finding much info on spawn- I feel like oyster will go to town on sterile grains the same as cubes, is the same true for shiitake?

I’ve heard of plug spawn, very skeptical to get info off YouTube so I wanted to ask Shroomery people for any links to teks regarding spawn and bulk (including growing/fruiting conditions) for shiitake.

The oysters im not super concerned about, I’ve read they’re much easier to grow than cubes many times.


I’m also doing lions mane, but this seems to be a species I can grow similarly to oysters, except modify it for a wood lover?

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