MotherNaturesSon said:

Physical exercise does sound legit, since I haven't been working out my entire life whatsoever.

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so you have never taken care of your body, and you put drugs in your body for 4 years
and then wonder why your body starts acting weird.



if you check your nutrition, i bet thats shit too.

Society said:

MotherNaturesSon said:

Ive been smoking weed for 4 years everyday, 5 to more times a day. Tripping on mushrooms every month or two for a year or two.

Eventually I started getting panic attacks and feeling weird. So i stopped smoking.

But after a few panic attacks while being sober i got into a state of mind were i feel disconnected, and unfocused. I see afterimages of light, even the slightest of light. The afterimages can sometimes be so vivid that i can literally see what time it is and the background if i close my eyes looking at my iphone. I sometimes see visuals with my eyes closed that range from 'not there but there' to quite vivid. Especially when i'm tired and haven't slept, have smoked some weed (still smoke sometimes though very rarely and minuscule amounts-- to much makes me anxious, prolly just me) or drinking alcohol, ect. I also sometimes see dots of light id see specifically on come-downs from trips + weed.

I no longer have panic attacks, but this state im in points to one explanation- i'm permafried. maybe lightly. but permafried. if not- please do explain. Needless to say I havent tripped at all since this ordeal started, i did coincidentally trip the day before it all began. Though the trip was awesome and i felt completely normal during that specific day until i lit up a massive bowl in the evening.

Either way, whether this state is gonna go away sometime or not (had it for 5 months now every day on various levels.) i was just wondering in general:

How safe is it to trip on psychedelics if youre permafried? Or is that absolutely out of the question? Any experiences? Similarities? Because even though i stopped smoking weed, tripping is something id love to do sometime again in my life. Advice is welcome.

Peace.

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OP, you sound is if you have a cannabis-induced anxiety/HPPD disorder. 

I have this.

I have had it for almost eight or so years.  I was never a daily smoker, but I almost completely quit about six years ago to rectify my HPPD/anxiety.  It never went away, but I got used it.  I have similar visuals distortions, panic attacks, and the feelings of dissociation... feeling out of it all the time.  Sucks.  Perhaps the symptoms have gotten milder over the years... but I think I have just gotten used to it.


Oddly enough, psychedelics have not worsened my condition in any way.  If anything, they've helped me work through it.

Cannabis affects the brain chemistry considerably differently than traditional psychedelics (mush, LSD).

I'd quit cannabis for several months, if I were you.  And be cautious with psychedelics.

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Eight years?! You gotta be kidding me! How did your thing start? Are your seriously that used to it or have the effects really seemed to subside? You said mushrooms seemed to help you pull through, please elaborate if you will.

I'm still hoping i cannot fully relate, because honestly- i'd rly like this to stop at least in three years span... may it be anything else but HPPD, anxiety induced derealization and palinopsia, idgaf. Just not HPPD, that shit's permanent yo

MotherNaturesSon said:

AlyDrops, could you share? What have you gone through?

I also forgot to mention i see floaters and static (like little blue dots fuzzing around) in the sky.

What are the actual symptoms of HPPD? i thought the closed-eye visuals stole it and made it at least a case of HPPD. Do people ever get over HPPD btw?

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Bud, i've been seeing blue dots fuzzing in the sky since i was as little as i can remember. It's simply not being permafried, you might be more aware now (due to age, or drugs, or other factors or all factors) and you've just noticed, but i assure you that if that's one of the bigger signs, it ain't no fuss to worry about.

And yippy ki yay you can trip out, just be sure to do a bit more so it gets past all the sizzled chips.

Trilobite said:

OP, alot of what your describing is pretty much my day to day experience, and Ive never truely tripped. You will get used to the extreme light sensitivity and the spontaneous phosphenes, I actually enjoy them, although occasionally it can be annoying. The sense of dissociation isnt really a problem either. Just enjoy your own unique outlook on the world, have fun with it.

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Guesstimate said:

Training would def help , I train around 4-5 times a week its great!

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Society said:

OP, you sound is if you have a cannabis-induced anxiety/HPPD disorder. 

I have this.

I have had it for almost eight or so years.  I was never a daily smoker, but I almost completely quit about six years ago to rectify my HPPD/anxiety.  It never went away, but I got used it.  I have similar visuals distortions, panic attacks, and the feelings of dissociation... feeling out of it all the time.  Sucks.  Perhaps the symptoms have gotten milder over the years... but I think I have just gotten used to it.


Oddly enough, psychedelics have not worsened my condition in any way.  If anything, they've helped me work through it.

Cannabis affects the brain chemistry considerably differently than traditional psychedelics (mush, LSD).

I'd quit cannabis for several months, if I were you.  And be cautious with psychedelics.

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MisterMuscaria said:

I rarely smoke and it only takes me a couple of hits to get blazed.

Ill eat acid all day but Ive been staying away from the mushrooms. I had the opportunity to do them a few times recently but every time Ive ended up giving them to someone else, since the last couple times i did them I didnt know who or where i was and thought i was gonna die.
Ever since i ate 80 grams they do that to me, no matter how small the amount.

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Mothernaturesson said:

I've been smoking weed for 4 years everyday, 5 to more times a day. Tripping on mushrooms every month or two for a year or two.

Eventually I started getting panic attacks and feeling weird. So i stopped smoking.

But after a few panic attacks while being sober i got into a state of mind were i feel disconnected, and unfocused. I see afterimages of light, even the slightest of light. The afterimages can sometimes be so vivid that i can literally see what time it is and the background if i close my eyes looking at my iphone. I sometimes see visuals with my eyes closed that range from 'not there but there' to quite vivid. Especially when I'm tired and haven't slept, have smoked some weed (still smoke sometimes though very rarely and minuscule amounts-- to much makes me anxious, prollo just me) or drinking alcohol, ect. I also sometimes see dots of light id see specifically on come-downs from trips + weed.

I no longer have panic attacks, but this state im in points to one explanation- I'm permafried. maybe lightly. but permafried. if not- please do explain. Needless to say I haven't tripped at all since this ordeal started, i did coincidentally trip the day before it all began. Though the trip was awesome and i felt completely normal during that specific day until i lit up a massive bowl in the evening.

Either way, whether this state is gonna go away sometime or not (had it for 5 months now every day on various levels.) i was just wondering in general:

How safe is it to trip on psychedelics if you're permafried? Or is that absolutely out of the question? Any experiences? Similarities? Because even though i stopped smoking weed, tripping is something id love to do sometime again in my life. Advice is welcome.

Peace.

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