RJ Tubs 202 said:

LikeMyc said:

It is well established that saturated fatty acids increase low-density lipoprotein cholesterol. LDL is a strong risk factor for cardiovascular disease.

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100% false 

There's a lot of scientific evidence the more important factor predicting heart disease risk is the triglyceride/HDL ratio.  The crappy Western diet often results in high triglyceride levels.  People who limit or eliminate plant based foods usually have low triglyceride levels, and remain quite healthy with "high" LDL levels.  Of course "high" implies bad, which is plain wrong.  If 10 "medical experts" told me I should take a statin, I'd tell them all to go to hell.  Don't let these people fool you.  Your life depends on it.

Many people remain quite healthy with so called "high" HDL levels.

The term "high LDL" is in itself propaganda, as it implies bad.

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

The medical industry supports the federal government adding sugar to milk.

The medical industry has killed many people.  Let's be honest.

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Ditchdude said:

...Can we all try not to be dicks?

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LOL, Dicks and assholes are high in micro nutrients

Ditchdude said:

Couple points.

The idea that plant foods can't sustain you through hard work is, via my experience, blatantly false. 

Food science functions in such a way that long term studies are seriously difficult.  It keeps changing and you can find new info all the time.

Third, pretty sure our pre civilization ancestors ate way more plants than meat. 

Fourth, I'm vegetarian.  If you don't want to be one, don't be one.  I know that there are preachy vegans/vegetarians, but preachy meat eaters are definitely out there too.  Can we all try not to be dicks?

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Yeah,

Meat isn’t unhealthy if eaten with a balanced diet and exercise and everything else. Healthy lifestyle… whatever makes you happy.

And everyone is different.

But yeah, I would guess that before we started farming animals our diets may have consisted of more plant based foods, but still the occasional meat. Hunter-gatherer, goes hand in hand.

I would like to try to cut down the amount of meat I eat, ideally. I’ve tried multiple times but it’s difficult for me to stick to, I revert to old habits because everyone around me eats so much meat.