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Re: DO you think shrooms bring about enlightenment? [Re: darkcreature]
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darkcreature said:
Beluga said:
Lol.  “Samasaric existence” is all that matters, and all that is “real.”  Without it, we are just unified all-consciousness in the void, which is same as saying we are nothing, and experience nothing.  That is quite boring, so as God, we like to create worlds to play games in.  Sometimes we do it for challenge, sometimes we do it to experience love, achievement, friendship, ect., and sometimes we do it to fuck, do drugs and have a good time.  All the base and higher pleasures of Maya that you eastern mystic types shit on are actually the only thing God has of any interest or value.  Once you obtain your unattached “enlightenment,” what then?  You will dissolve into Nirvana, sitting around in a lotus position, not giving a shit about anything forever?  Lol.  Of course not.  After a while you will want to love, hate, achieve, suffer, make friends, destroy enemies, achieve power, and have sex.  Then you will enter “Maya” again.  It’s amazing to me that the Eastern types think this place is some sort of accident.  It’s not an accident at all.  The creator wants to create, differentiate, and experience, not just sit around all the time feeling “at One.”




well said, and another angle to it is that in a short while we will all die anyway, so it's quite good opportunity to break free of Maya without trying to hack it from the wrong side of the matrix. I have yet to come across convincing explanation from mystics why in the face of death and impermanence trying to attain liberation even makes sense (discounting answers hinged on religious bullshit concepts like karma)



For one, levels of meditation, samadhis, aren't attained typically without long practice. The 'skill' would be like any other, needing development to place higher.

Most of what else I could think to say would be by what you said likely BS, but it's said that the moment of passing is very important, and everything can be attained there with appropriate mind, so in a sense, for some, all of life's training is for that moment.

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Re: DO you think shrooms bring about enlightenment? [Re: syncro]
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I question what is said about the moment of passing, and won't be able to share any findings as with others .

Unfortunately NDE's are not credible proofs of anything other than a state of mind in unusual circumstances.


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Re: DO you think shrooms bring about enlightenment? [Re: redgreenvines]
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It's what I think may be agreeable among yogis, the principle also seen in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, etc.

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agreeable for the reason of it being an agreeable fantasy for 3000 years or more.

critical thinking, or groking, or experiencing, or tripping with your own eyes open should not make you believe the agreeable fantasies just because others have agreed to believe without any proof of any kind.

to me it is just more egoic conceptions


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Re: DO you think shrooms bring about enlightenment? [Re: redgreenvines]
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The yogas, the body/mind responds and behaves in ways that would give personal evidence. We know that, the fruit of yogas, meditation, psychs. None of us can prove a side to another. So it's just looking at ideas.

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