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Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963
    #2825937 - 06/25/04 12:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm sure this has probably been posted before, but for those who haven't seen it...

How many do you believe have already been accomplished?

Communist Goals (1963)
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Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963



Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.




http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2825989 - 06/25/04 12:25 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

hahaha.


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2826025 - 06/25/04 12:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The cold war is over.

Thats all i have to say.

(Interesting read though)


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: uki]
    #2826043 - 06/25/04 12:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, hahaha. HA!

I'm quite familiar with where these came from and how many have attempted to discredit them. It doesn't change the fact that it is a remarkably accurate prediction.

I should have clarified that these aren't actual goals written down by heads of the Communist party. The author of the book mentioned worked for the FBI for 16 years and taught at a university for awhile. He is/was an expert on communist philosophy and history.


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: DieCommie]
    #2826081 - 06/25/04 12:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

These were written in 1960.

Certainly some of them are outdated, but others seem to have been skillfully realized.

Though the Cold War may be dead, at least by most's defintion, those who would espouse Communist ideology are alive and well.


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2826103 - 06/25/04 12:57 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The fact that the Communists wanted something does not in itself make it wrong. For example, I agree with presenting homosexuality as normal, natural, and healthy. Well, maybe not healthy, but still...


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: silversoul7]
    #2826138 - 06/25/04 01:06 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

silversoul7 said:
The fact that the Communists wanted something does not in itself make it wrong.  For example, I agree with presenting homosexuality as normal, natural, and healthy.  Well, maybe not healthy, but still...


HA! maybe not healthy, and id say maybe not natural, but certainly not criminal...but gay sex was illegal in Russia until 1993...not that it affects me  :whistling:

edit-oh yea sorces are nice, if your so interested  Russian Gay History  :lol:  Also this obviously deals with Russia, not commies as a whole....


Edited by Qubit (06/25/04 01:12 AM)


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: silversoul7]
    #2826205 - 06/25/04 01:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Though I can somewhat agree with you, it's the way it has been pushed on to people that I take issue with.

Those with religious beliefs that disapprove of such behavior should not be forced to have their children taught this is morally right. Nor should private organizations be forced to allow homosexuals into said organization contrary to their beliefs.

I believe that some (if not most) homosexuals were born that way. But when you see the proliferation of young girls in middle and high school that are "gay" because it's cool, you can't ignore that some can be influenced by their environment to be something they aren't simply to gain acceptance.

It boils down to the same civil rights arguments. Rights should be for people period, not separte groups of people.

Oh, but back on topic, no, not all Communist goals or ideology are wrong in and of themselves. But when embraced as an agenda with the attempt to control...


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2826913 - 06/25/04 07:10 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

But when embraced as an agenda with the attempt to control...

Who says they had an agenda apart from the guy who wrote the book tho?

This sounds like The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


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Re: Any of this sound familiar...Communist goals circa 1963 [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2828227 - 06/25/04 03:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

was promoting homosexuality really a part of the communist agenda? disrupting 'family values' by promoting promiscuity and undermining obscenity laws? undermining the church? promoting civil rights?

sounds like the author of the list was trying to write off certain 'liberal' aspects of the direction social life was going at the time as the doing of communist sympathizers.

it sounds familiar not because any of these so-called 'goals' have been realized, but because it's very similar to the way that some politicians and interest groups are now using terrorism (instead of communism) to push their agenda.


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    #2828256 - 06/25/04 03:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It's really interesting to read some of the public statements made by Soviet leaders of the time. What's even more interesting is to read some of the memoirs of ex-KGB operatives.

Pretty much all of the things that guy speaks of were tried by the Sovs at one time or another. Quite a few of them were official Soviet doctrine, and some of them were even public official Soviet doctrine.

They put more effort into some of their programs than others, though.

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