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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
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tizens.

I think it's important to look at the root problem of the scenario. Citizens being ignored. To me, that's the justification for an action such as that. If Government didn't ignore it's people, there would be no need for protest. Acceptable protest or not.


    Are you kidding me , they didn't go there expressing their grievances about their financial situation ,  they went there shouting hang Mike Pence . 
  They went because of Trumps election  conspiracies . The whole thing was because of Trumps lies about the election being stolen .
  How do you justify that ?


So the guy that wants them hung, also knows exactly what their demands were... lol whatever their grievances, they were previously ignored.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 2
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damn gurl you ignorant.
:elderno:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
damn gurl you ignorant.
:elderno:


The person who doesn't ignore root causes is ignorant? Funny.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 3
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Their grievance was they wanted the election result overturned by illegal means.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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So the guy that wants them hung, also knows exactly what their demands were... lol whatever their grievances, they were previously ignored.


Let me be very clear , I want them hung with  the same gallos and noose that they brought to hang Mike Pence with .
  Everyone knows what they wanted because they were shouting it through bullhorns and it's all on video .



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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Brian Jones said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I've previously given you polls.  I don't think we can do better than that.


Right here.
Brian Jones said:
mycosis said:
https://www.iri.org/resources/ukraine-poll-majority-want-donbas-to-remain-in-ukraine/


The sampling methodology was clearly stated and it passes muster for professional scientific survey research. It has a large sample size and a small margin of error. I expect it will be ignored in this thread.



Right here.

Have you gone white supremacist on us, and believe the wishes of the people in the affected regions of Donbas and Crimea don't matter?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Brian Jones]
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Why didn't they interview any of the people there? Weird.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
and what happened to the biolabs?:deal:


The Department of Defense admitted to supporting 46 biological research facilities in Ukraine.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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they didnt admit because nothing was hidden its in plain view:shrug: nothing in that link says anything that wasnt or isnt easily accessible.

thats a true nothing burger.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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r3volution.gurl said:
Psilynut2 said:
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Well that's not really a fair comparison because you and your homies tax money doesn't support my property.


  That's not what I asked you but ya Your right "I pay taxes"  doesn't justify assaulting private property . Why does it justify assaulting property that has more than one owner?


My answer doesn't matter because it's a shitty comparison. My property IS private property. The capitol building is not private property, that's the point. Government owned technically belongs to the people who pay for it which is it's citizens.

I think it's important to look at the root problem of the scenario. Citizens being ignored. To me, that's the justification for an action such as that. If Government didn't ignore it's people, there would be no need for protest. Acceptable protest or not.


Prisons are government buildings paid for by taxes.  Do you think the public is allowed to storm and ransack prisons?

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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r3volution.gurl said:
mushboy said:
damn gurl you ignorant.
:elderno:


The person who doesn't ignore root causes is ignorant? Funny.


you think a group of lied to morons has legitimate grievances? thats the essence of ignoring a root cause. its like someone wanting to burn down your house because they think you control the gophers that eat their crops.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 1
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I'll just leave this here






In other news to do with the war, Gas prices are down to almost $4 a gallon now

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Fiery]
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:haha: at little poot.

ya it only cost 50bucks to fill up this morning


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
What evidence do you have that what the Ukrainian parliament overwhelmingly decided to do was illegal ? Are you an expert on Ukrainian law ?


No, I'm not an 'expert' in Ukrainian law, but I do know that 3/4 of parliament's 450 seats (or 338 people) needed to vote to oust Yanukovych, and they only got 328 votes.

I also know that the current acting prime minister, Serhiy Arbuzov, should have assumed power after Yanukovych's removal, but they gave the position instead to the person Victoria Nuland selected - Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

You don't have to be an expert to know these very simple facts.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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r3volution.gurl said:
Psilynut2 said:
Quote:
tizens.

I think it's important to look at the root problem of the scenario. Citizens being ignored. To me, that's the justification for an action such as that. If Government didn't ignore it's people, there would be no need for protest. Acceptable protest or not.


    Are you kidding me , they didn't go there expressing their grievances about their financial situation ,  they went there shouting hang Mike Pence . 
  They went because of Trumps election  conspiracies . The whole thing was because of Trumps lies about the election being stolen .
  How do you justify that ?


So the guy that wants them hung, also knows exactly what their demands were... lol whatever their grievances, they were previously ignored.


You don't know what you're talking about.  Trump insurrectionists might be the least ignored group of people in the U.S.
We endured months of their crying and conspiracy theories about the election results in all media which culminated in an attempt to circumvent the electoral process and install Trump through violence and intimidation.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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dramatic cultural change to benefit a few thru the use of violence and intimidation = nazi

Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed.

trumpers do all that.

fuck ukraine we got these people here to deal with:paranoid:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 1
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mushboy said:
they didnt admit because nothing was hidden its in plain view:shrug: nothing in that link says anything that wasnt or isnt easily accessible.

thats a true nothing burger.


Except the mainstream media was telling us there were no US funded biolabs:

Fact check: False claim of US biolabs in Ukraine tied to Russian disinformation campaign


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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Frankly, I still don't get how acknowledging the existence Russian military aggression is a defense of neo-nazis in Ukraine.  Even the boosters for this narrative admit that the far-right neo-nazi groups make up no more than 10% of the population.  Meanwhile we're edging up around 30% and these same people don't bat an eyelash.  It's almost as though they don't really give a flying fuck about nazis and are simply looking for something (anything) to justify Russia's invasion and territorial expansion.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
the mainstream media



:panic:

whats mainstream media? who owns it and who controls it? im curious.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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No, I'm not an 'expert' in Ukrainian law, but I do know that 3/4 of parliament's 450 seats (or 338 people) needed to vote to oust Yanukovych, and they only got 328 votes.

I also know that the current acting prime minister, Serhiy Arbuzov, should have assumed power after Yanukovych's removal, but they gave the position instead to the person Victoria Nuland selected - Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

You don't have to be an expert to know these very simple facts.


If they are simple then why are we already disagreeing ?


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In an emergency session, the Ukrainian parliament voted 380 to 0 on Saturday to remove Yanukovych from office, saying he was guilty of gross human rights violations and dereliction of duty


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraines-yanukovych-missing-as-protesters-take-control-of-presidential-residence-in-kiev/2014/02/22/802f7c6c-9bd2-11e3-ad71-e03637a299c0_story.html


They voted to oust him after he left , he abandoned his presidency  after he worked out a deal with the people who were revolting .  What choice did they have ?


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