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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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ballsalsa said:
Oh, well, if they tried and failed then the Russian invasion and occupation is totally legit. What else could they possibly do but invade a country because some separatists there tried and failed to revolt?


You keep ignoring that the US backed the illegal overthrow of a democratically elected Government in Ukraine.  Is that how democracy is supposed to work in your mind?

Edit: Once again, chopstick beat me to the obvious.  :toast:


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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (07/18/22 01:04 AM)

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa] * 3
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ballsalsa said:
chopstick said:
shivas.wisdom said:
Always? Because we're still waiting on you naming who believes the US should be able to coup whomever they like without resistance.


You won't even admit that the US did a coup in Ukraine lol


You won't even admit to your alt-right, neo-Nazi friends' attempted coup right here :burke:



January 6th? A Neo-Nazi coup!

That is trivializing what Nazism actually is/was in an attempt to designate a bunch of (overzealous) right wing trespassers as 'Nazi' so they can be dehumanized and deprived of human/legal rights or any humane considerations. Same exact playbook as with the Canadian truckers with the true objective being to brutally crush dissent, and have the legal (black hole) consequences serve as a warning for any future would-be dissenters (Assange too).

That is Nazi/fascist Mr shroomery political forum moderator, and it is you, like a German in the 1930's, who is going along happily for the ride pretending to be blind to what is happening as your own citizens are persecuted, or rot in jail, or as actual Nazis are/were being encouraged and armed in Ukraine by these very same (hideous) governments!

The protesters may have been foolish to enter that building and should have known the consequences of taking the bait but they were/are not Nazis and as the videos show it was clearly not an organized coup attempt.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: wolf8312]
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Thank god our resident expert on what the videos show has logged on to set us all straight.  Thank you for your service, sir. You're doing a great job. :thumbup:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius] * 2
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(5 months, 5 days ago) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27649677#27649677
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Stable Genius said: I’m just speculating, but I’d be willing to take a bet on a pipeline failure before summer


Just sayin, but it seemed such obvious leverage  :shrug:



Industrial companies across Germany are facing a real prospect of scaling down operations or shutting down completely if natural gas flows from Russia stop, the Financial Times reported on Monday.

Canadian lawmakers will be called to explain return of Nord Stream turbines

Key Nord Stream component sent to Germany from Canada: Report. Ukraine had pleaded with Ottawa to hold off on returning the turbine.
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Nord Stream went offline for annual maintenance on July 11, and is scheduled to return to operation on July 21. But German Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck,

who lobbied the Canadian government to return the pipeline, has said he is concerned that it may never come back online.


Kyiv doesn't see a problem destroying Germany's economy instead of negotiating a surrender :nonono:



Zelensky explains why he fired Ukraine’s top security officials
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Ukraine’s security services are riddled with traitors and Russia “collaborators,” the president claimed.
"As of today, some 651 criminal cases have been registered on high treason and collaboration activities"


3 of the 8 Himars missile launchers the U.S. sent recently have already been blown up. 4 more were sent last week, they will be located and destroyed one by one....

The shit is going to hit the fan for Zelensky very soon.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa]
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I will never understand why people get bent out of shape about moderation on a forum. You come in my house and do things I don't like, I kick you out. Easy.

Also, the US loves to arm and pay Nazi's, and white supremacists, and bigots too, they are called the police. Where is the outrage? Oh, it's against the black people that are tired of being victimized, tired of being policed instead of taken care of. How dare they?


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Edited by christopera (07/18/22 08:49 AM)

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
(5 months, 5 days ago) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27649677#27649677
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Stable Genius said: I’m just speculating, but I’d be willing to take a bet on a pipeline failure before summer


Just sayin, but it seemed such obvious leverage  :shrug:


Industrial companies across Germany are facing a real prospect of scaling down operations or shutting down completely if natural gas flows from Russia stop, the Financial Times reported on Monday.

Canadian lawmakers will be called to explain return of Nord Stream turbines

Key Nord Stream component sent to Germany from Canada: Report. Ukraine had pleaded with Ottawa to hold off on returning the turbine.

Kyiv doesn't see a problem destroying Germany's economy instead of negotiating a surrender :nonono:


Zelensky explains why he fired Ukraine’s top security officials
Quote:
Ukraine’s security services are riddled with traitors and Russia “collaborators,” the president claimed.
"As of today, some 651 criminal cases have been registered on high treason and collaboration activities"


3 of the 8 Himars missile launchers the U.S. sent recently have already been blown up. 4 more were sent last week, they will be located and destroyed one by one.

The shit is going to hit the fan for Zelensky very soon.




Uhhhh, so Kyiv and Zelensky are doing it? Or is it the west?

I mean, because Kyiv and Zelensky are the elected government, so they should probably do whatever they think is right.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Brian Jones]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
ballsalsa said:
Even If you posted 1000 videos of people within occupied Ukraine actually thanking Russia it wouldn't be evidence of 'the majority of people thanking Russia'.  It would be evidence of 1000 people thanking Russia


I've previously given you polls.  I don't think we can do better than that.


Right here.
Brian Jones said:
mycosis said:
https://www.iri.org/resources/ukraine-poll-majority-want-donbas-to-remain-in-ukraine/


The sampling methodology was clearly stated and it passes muster for professional scientific survey research. It has a large sample size and a small margin of error. I expect it will be ignored in this thread.



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: christopera]
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Wow... the mental contortions one has to do to blame the leader of a nation for the destruction of another nation's economy simply because be won't surrender to an invading country.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: christopera]
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You think Germany will wipe itself out defending Ukraine?

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Wow... the mental contortions one has to do to blame the leader of a nation for the destruction of another nation's economy simply because be won't surrender to an invading country.



You think Germany will wipe itself out defending Ukraine?

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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I don't even understand the question,  nor can I envision any conceivable way Germany can wipe itself out.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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Russians are gettting fucked so hard by Putins madness. Sucks to be them.


And now I can't even mail order Russian Brides anymore

:fuckthisshit:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: wolf8312]
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Enlil said:
I don't even understand the question,  nor can I envision any conceivable way Germany can wipe itself out.


where are they getting these concepts? what fun factory pushes them out? and what happened to the biolabs?:deal:

wolf8312 said:
should have known the consequences of taking the bait


like that one.
:callingbullshit:
what bait?


..or did i just take troll bait:rolleyes:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: wolf8312]
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January 6th? A Neo-Nazi coup!

That is trivializing what Nazism actually is/was in an attempt to designate a bunch of (overzealous) right wing trespassers as 'Nazi' so they can be dehumanized and deprived of human/legal rights or any humane considerations.


  I think we can call traitors who were trying to kill the Vice President whatever the fuck we feel like and if it were up to me they would all hang or do community service in black communities , it could be their choice .  What they did is worse than just being a Nazi in my opinion ,  I don't think the term Nazi is dehumanizing enough . Fuck those idiots .


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
Quote:
January 6th? A Neo-Nazi coup!

That is trivializing what Nazism actually is/was in an attempt to designate a bunch of (overzealous) right wing trespassers as 'Nazi' so they can be dehumanized and deprived of human/legal rights or any humane considerations.


  I think we can call traitors who were trying to kill the Vice President whatever the fuck we feel like and if it were up to me they would all hang or do community service in black communities , it could be their choice .  What they did is worse than just being a Nazi in my opinion ,  I don't think the term Nazi is dehumanizing enough . Fuck those idiots .


:hahawtf:

A lot has really changed since that day... insane inflation, higher interest rates etc.... yeah those people really fucked things up so they should hang while the actual people with power in Governments and institutions aren't traitors
:biden:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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Inflation had been on the rise since Trump's third year as COVID started to loosen. People going and buying things started it, in part because of all the stimulus money that Trump started handing out.

Convenient to believe otherwise though.

Interest rates will slow buying and reduce inflation. You can't have it both ways.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: christopera]
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Quote:
. Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

You keep ignoring that the US backed the illegal overthrow of a democratically elected Government in Ukraine.  Is that how democracy is supposed to work in your mind?



What evidence do you have that what the Ukrainian parliament overwhelmingly decided to do was illegal ? Are you an expert on Ukrainian law ?


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: christopera]
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I was being sarcastic. Sorry I thought it was obvious lol.

Hm high inflation isn't due to people buying more... might cause corporations to want to increase their prices, but it's really because of all the money being printed.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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Quote:
A lot has really changed since that day... insane inflation, higher interest rates etc.... yeah those people really fucked things up so they should hang while the actual people with power in Governments and institutions aren't traitors


They committed a crime ,  the economy , the new interest rate , and wether they are Nazis , neo nazis , confederates ,  or if they are just the general despicable type of asshole that would choose to be hung over black community service , I really don't care , you really think they are all that racist ?


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Edited by Psilynut2 (07/18/22 11:29 AM)

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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Quote:
while the actual people with power in Governments and institutions aren't traitors


    What have the people who are in power done that can be considered treason ?
Biden told Trump to shut up , won the election , took his job , his house and his twitter account and has done basically nothing since then .....


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Edited by Psilynut2 (07/18/22 11:34 AM)

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