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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Warrk]
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Wow it's amazing how perceptive you all of a sudden are when you find something worthy:rofl:

It was a planned and executed joke... I have no need to lie. :picard:

You don't need to convince me to bring my mom because it's her choice. I actually asked her a couple weeks ago if she still doesn't want the shots. She said she's still thinking about it.

Definitely not anytime soon because she's actually sick right now with something, recovering quite well so I'll do an antibody test for her afterwards and she can further think about it. I don't try to control other people dude:shrug:

The only reason we are doing an antibody test is because that's all that's available to us to take home. The test centres and locations are not safe for an immunocompromised person with multiple diseases.


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Edited by r3volution.gurl (01/04/22 01:59 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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trees said:
Lol why pretend
koods said:
trees said:
Youre blind. Not that it matters anyway

NYC averages 420 per 100k. Isnt NYC IN NY?

Mississppi is 350




Oh fuck off with these stupid games.


God you are so butt hurt everytime you get something wrong.

NY has 212 NYC has 420, whats that make? 632 deaths per 100k?


:facepalm:

No. It would be between 212 and 420.


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New York CITY was so fuxking bad its metric had to be on its own along the rest of the states.


New York City has always been a separate jurisdiction from NY state for the CDC

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NY is one of the most vaxed states.


Yup, that’s why it has one of the lowest death rates since vaccines have been in use


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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r3volution.gurl said:
Wow it's amazing how perceptive you all of a sudden are when you find something worthy:rofl:

It was planned and executed jokes... I have no need to lie. :picard:

You don't need to convince me to bring my mom because it's her choice. I actually asked her a couple weeks ago if she still doesn't want the shots. She said she's still thinking about it.

Definitely not anytime soon because she's actually sick right now with something, recovering quite well so I'll do an antibody test for her afterwards and she can further think about it. I don't try to control other people dude:shrug:

The only reason we are doing an antibody test is because that's all that's available to us to take home. The test centres and locations are not safe for an immunocompromised person with multiple diseases.


I can’t find any information about how well the antibody tests will work for detecting antibodies from an omicron infection. Because of the nature of the immune evasion, they may not work very well.

You can’t find rapid antigen tests where you are? It’s almost impossible around here but I’ve seen people reaching out on Twitter and Facebook asking around to see if anyone has one sitting around. Most of these kits have two tests in them so there’s quite a lot of people who may have only used one. Ask people you know. I bet you can get your hands on one.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
I can’t find any information about how well the antibody tests will work for detecting antibodies from an omicron infection. Because of the nature of the immune evasion, they may not work very well.

You can’t find rapid antigen tests where you are? It’s almost impossible around here but I’ve seen people reaching out on Twitter and Facebook asking around to see if anyone has one sitting around. Most of these kits have two tests in them so there’s quite a lot of people who may have only used one. Ask people you know. I bet you can get your hands on one.


Thanks! Yeah we both called everything we could think of. There's no take home tests for sale. She would have to go there.

I'm actually getting the antibody test from a friend. I'm not 100% sure if they have the rapid antigen tests as well, they told me, but I can't remember right now.

I've been checking for the pop up giveaways because that's what everywhere I called said to do.

She was also really sick back in May last year and one of her symptoms was losing taste and smell so she wants the antibody test anyways.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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Oh yeah, sounds like she already had covid in may so the antibody test probably would only say she had it at some point. I don’t know the nature of her immune suppression, but if it’s drug induced, most of them affect the ability of the immune system to make antibodies, so she might not test positive in any case.

There’s some research that suggests temporary suspension of some immunosuppressants can improve response to the vaccine.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.28.462156v1.full.pdf


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Koods have you ever heard of ivermectin?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Battle Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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:popcorn:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Baby_Hitler said:
And you can trust the statistics out of those countries about as well as you can trust the USA statistics thanks to the GOP who seem to have a fetish for 3rd world conditions.


I think trees believed he US had really good vaccination rates compared to other countries. It’s the only reason I can think of why he would would think his data supports his provirus attitude


Really? I can think of another. He is an avowed anarchist. He sees this pandemic as a wonderful opportunity to encourage division and conflict, to undermine civil society in furtherance of an agenda, to create chaos and conflict.

I doubt most of this is even from his own research, but is material that is part of a misinformation campaign, funded by Russia, which the useful idiot anarchists are only happy to help distribute to further their aim of societal collapse.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl]
    #27606195 -

We're only trying to help and I'm on this thread to help dispel myths and to correct misinformation.

I don't think there a need for rhetoric, jokes, lies or whatever weasel methods you seem to employ to worm your way out of logical traps. Covid is a serious issue and I take it as a serious subject and just want to deal with the facts and the science so that all of us can be better informed. It could also help save a few lives.

So don't take it personally, I certainly don't and my ego is not that fragile that I need validation from others on here... I have done the most vile things one can imagine and I do not pretend to be an angel. But I can see self-delusion when it presents itself and amid all the hippy trippy peace and love that most shroomers profess, when it comes down to it most of us are as flawed as anyone else - perhaps even more so.

Let's get back to talking Covid rather than getting caught up in personal attacks and other side shows. I do not claim to know it all and I'm sure I'm not right all the time but I'm fairly certain that I can detect misinformation when I see it.

Going back to the Nature article you posted, tis a great article - I love it!

The Youtube video about Canada's Deputy Prime Minister being questioned: not so much.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
Koods have you ever heard of ivermectin?


The Nobel prize winning drug that cures everything ?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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Hospitalization rates in NYC



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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Here we go again, close the storm hatches :sad:

Lets hope code black can be avoided.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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NYC is so highly vaccinated that that massive jump in the rate for unvaccinated isn’t moving the overall numbers much

The rate for vaccinated people is going down. NYC isn’t the only place that is happening. It’s happening in DC too. The number of vaccinated people being hospitalized FOR covid has been going down the last few weeks, while the number of unvaccinated has exploded. The week of 12/20-12/26 there were none. It appears that efficacy for the vaccines against omicron hospitalization is better than for delta. This data also suggests that delta cases are in fact diminishing.

Note this is hospitalized for covid, so these are people being hospitalized because of covid. Not incidentals.



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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/04/22 05:50 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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That makes me feel a bit better. That's a hopeful chart for vaccinated people (though depressing for the unvaccinated). I can see it making sense too: if omicron is less intense, then even a less effective vaccine due to omicron partial evasion might still be enough to prevent hospitalization almost entirely.

I'd be curious to see the breakdown between fully vaccinated vs boosted as well, but the number of vaccinated patients looks like so few in that chart that there's probably just not enough data.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Anonymous] * 2
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koods said:
The Nobel prize winning drug that cures everything ?


But isn't it more than just a little coincidence that the anti-covid drug Pfizer worked on for months just happens to have such a similar mechanism of action - protease inhibition?

Pfizer has a new anti-covid drug called Paxlovid which they say severely reduces the risk of hospitalization. It actually is a multi-drug combination which includes an already well-known HIV drug, Ritonavir, and a new drug, nirmatrelvir. They claim the generic well-known drug has no effect but to help slow the breakdown of the other drug.

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Paxlovid consists of nirmatrelvir, which inhibits a SARS-CoV-2 protein to stop the virus from replicating, and ritonavir, which slows down nirmatrelvir’s breakdown to help it remain in the body for a longer period at higher concentrations. Paxlovid is administered as three tablets (two tablets of nirmatrelvir and one tablet of ritonavir) taken together orally twice daily for five days, for a total of 30 tablets


Ivermectin, Ritonavir and their new nirmatrelvir are all protease inhibitors. They all share fundamental similarities in how they work. The media is going on and on about how the comparison between them is 'superficial'. But I suspect many here know pharmacology enough to know that drugs with extremely similar mechanisms of action work similarly. A drug which is an anti-histamine is not going to work fundamentally differently from another anti-histamine; they target the same receptor. The media claim is that nirmatrelvir is a targeted protease inhibitor while ivermectin is a broad one; but even if that were so, the broad-spectrum protease inhibitor should have some effect, so why is it being claimed that it has none? It may also be possible that the broader-spectrum protease inhibitor would be more effective and not less.

But actually, many lab studies have proven ivermectin does in fact hit the COVID-19 protease.

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... we examined the efficacy of ivermectin against the main viral protease. The results of molecular docking following protein–ligand interaction are given in Figure 1B and Table 1. We have documented an intense binding of both ivermectin B1a and B1b isomer to the main protease with subsequent energy (ETot-) values of -384.56 and -408.6.



So let me pose the question, why is the media claiming ivermectin is completely baseless while the new miracle Pfizer covid drug is based on fundamentally the same chemistry? If nirmatrelvir works as well as claimed, does it really make sense to assert that another protease inhibitor would not work at all and is just a snake oil pill?

But wait wait, does ivermectin block a different protease than the new drug? No, the same one. Nirmatrelvir blocks the 3CL-pro protease, according to pfizer.


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Recent in vitro data confirm that nirmatrelvir is a potent inhibitor of the Omicron 3CL protease



And so does ivermectin. From Nature:

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Interestingly, as shown in Fig. 4, out of 13 OTDs only ivermectin completely blocked (>80%) the 3CLpro activity at 50 µM concentration .... ivermectin inhibited more than 85% of the enzymatic activity at 50 µM concentration.



It has been suggested that the necessary physiological concentrations of ivermectin would not be reached, yet the concentrations of the drug appear much higher in organs than in plasma:

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However, evidence from animal models showing up to 3-fold higher levels in pulmonary tissue than in plasma 1 week after oral dosing leaves the door open for further research, in particular for the treatment of respiratory viruses.25,26



You might say that 'ivermectin has not been tested'. Well, that is because they often won't publish the studies that are done, and they won't do proper new ones. Concludes cochrane, the ones who set the gold standard for meta-analysis in medicine, "The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality". In other words, it has not even been given a proper test, while nirmatrelvir has; to compare their study results is to compare apples to oranges.

The medical establishment has not even given ivermectin a fair shake.

If it is true that ivermectin reduces covid mortality, as its similarity to this new purported miracle drug suggests, those who suppressed evidence of this fact will have ended many lives by their recklessness.

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Caly et al.10 recently reported that ivermectin is a potent inhibitor of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) replication in vitro. Given the coronavirus disease-19 (COVID-19) pandemic, this has understandably resonated widely in the global press.11



The lead experts on clinical trials in the world say that ivermectin has not even been tested sufficiently, as it has not been used in a study of sufficient quality. But Pfizer's experimental new drug is rushed to these high-quality trials.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CreonAntigone] * 1
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Since I recovered hella fast why don't you all just take some of my DNA :awehigh:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CreonAntigone] * 2
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Things are kinda getting sketchy around here. I came to Walgreens to get a few things and it openned 30 minutes late. They have two people here and there’s about 20 people waiting to see how many covid tests are on the truck they are unloading. I’m going see if I can grab one.

There’s a massive 50 mile stretch of I-95 where vehicles are stranded. There wasn’t enough manpower to get the roads cleared with yesterday mornings snow. There’s probably 10,000 people stuck since yesterday morning. This is one of the busiest starches of highway in the US


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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People are buying four boxes at a time wtf


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
morrowasted said:
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. If you have a cardiac arrest, you’re not allowed to bring that person to the hospital unless you can get their heart started in the field.


of course. That is really the only sensible decision right now for anybody who cares about suffering in a general utilitarian way and not just their own


Are you seeing nosocomial spread or are these incidental infections in people coming into the hospital?


I worked with 3 Covid patients on my last shift, all tested negative at admission then came up positive on their 3 or 6 day test so they likely got it at our hospital or the one they transferred from. They're in the hospital for other reasons and only one had symptoms, he was originally hospitalized with bilateral pleural effusion from end stage renal disease... all he has is a light cough from Covid. I highly doubt he would have survived if he wasn't vaxxed.

Two of the 3 have rooms right next to eachother and it's a big hospital. Clinical staff there have caseloads based on room blocks so it's likely that a staff member infected them, looking like we'll be switching back to all n95's soon.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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my sense of smell has been completely gone since sunday. is that enough to assume I got the delta variant?


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