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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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Your number of 70% includes kids undrer age 5 vaxed or unvaxed.
:stevolmao:

My THE CDC number of 78% is 5 and up. How many under 5 died of covid again?


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Did you just discover that page?



You dont like that page do you :lol:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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There are no kids under age 5 who are vaxxed

The us is one of the only countries that is vaccinating kids 5 and over and we still have a pathetic vaccination rate


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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trees said:
koods said:
Did you just discover that page?



You dont like that page do you :lol:



What the fuck are you talking about?

You found a page that shows the US has a high death rate and embarrassingly low vaccination rate. Exactly what we’ve been saying for a long time


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/03/22 07:34 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 2
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The question is, does trees know he's lying, or is he just completely incapable of reading simple graphs.

America is sort of in the middle. But countries with higher vaccination rates are at the bottom of death rates. Cuba seems to be completely vaccinated, and deaths there are down to 0. There isn't some "vaccines cause more death" effect like trees wants to insinuate.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Lynnch]
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Coming straight from Trees site

Total
243,527,564

73.3% for one dose


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-people-onedose-pop-5yr


click on link^, click on 78% vaccinated bar, it breaks down all the details

For people who are fully vaccinated

Total
205,811,394
62%


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Spread kindness, love, empathy, compassion.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
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Look at russia. They aren’t even at 50% and it’s a fucking massacre


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Yeah if you check the actual statistics, the USA is closer to 62% for full vaccination rate

not nearly enough, we are just going to see so many different strains of covid


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Lead by example, words mean little when your actions don't reflect what you say.

Spread kindness, love, empathy, compassion.

Learn from mistakes. Try and do better. Each day is a new day, try to make it a better one.

Coconut and Avocado is awesome for the skin.

MIND OVER MATTER

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Lynnch]
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Lynnch said:
The question is, does trees know he's lying, or is he just completely incapable of reading simple graphs.

America is sort of in the middle. But countries with higher vaccination rates are at the bottom of death rates. Cuba seems to be completely vaccinated, and deaths there are down to 0. There isn't some "vaccines cause more death" effect like trees wants to insinuate.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations



The US is about 70th in vaccinations. There are third world countries with higher rates


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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And you can trust the statistics out of those countries about as well as you can trust the USA statistics thanks to the GOP who seem to have a fetish for 3rd world conditions.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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It’s even worse than it appears because most countries are only vaccinating kids over 12. We have a higher percentage of people eligible than almost any other country, and we still have pathetically low rates


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
And you can trust the statistics out of those countries about as well as you can trust the USA statistics thanks to the GOP who seem to have a fetish for 3rd world conditions.



I think trees believed he US had really good vaccination rates compared to other countries. It’s the only reason I can think of why he would would think his data supports his provirus attitude


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl]
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r3volution.gurl said:
Warrk, in January and Feburary everyone knew Wuhan had a covid outbreak, it was on the news... some intelligence agencies warned Governments about covid being a threat to their countries and the world as early as December. It was also brought up in the house of commons here in Canada. Would you like to see that recording?


You're accusing me of conspiracy theories and not knowing what I'm talking about because you actually don't know all the information. It's not even funny, it's just ignorance.



Yes we knew about Covid early on but so what? How does you video prove "There were many warning signs for months and opportunities to isolate the virus and it was purposefully ignored for profitable prospects"?

Rather than being ignored, I remember that Covid was in the mainstream media pretty much straight away and governments were scrambling to try to understand it as well as to prepare for its onslaught. How do you think Covid vaccines were developed and brought to market in such unprecedented speed? Under Trump's watch may I add (or at least, so he claims).

I don't know all the information and no-one does but I think I can see conspiracy theory when I encounter it.

r3volution.gurl said:
Apparently I also have to bring up the quotes again. I guess you didn't actually read the entire article...

"Variants such as Omicron and Delta carry mutations that blunt the potency of antibodies raised against past versions of SARS-CoV-2. And the forces propelling this ‘antigenic change’ are likely to grow stronger as most of the planet gains immunity to the virus through infection, vaccination or both"

"Whatever their origins, all three variants seemed to be more infectious than the strains they displaced. But Beta and Gamma also contained mutations that blunted the potency of infection-blocking ‘neutralizing’ antibodies triggered by previous infection or vaccination."

"Instead, he and other researchers suspect that Omicron’s rise may be largely due to its ability to infect people who are immune to Delta through vaccination or previous infection."

"Lab experiments and sequencing of circulating variants have identified a smorgasbord of mutations in the spike protein that weaken the potency of neutralizing antibodies triggered by infection and vaccination."

"Infection or vaccination provides lifetime protection, and the virus circulates largely on the basis of new births."



I read the entire article and understood it but I'm not sure that you did. The article, as I have said before, is a good one and the quotes you provide are also good ones. Again, I ask you, so what? The potency of antibodies - naturally acquired or through vaccination - being blunted due to the emergence of new variants is real and to be expected. Vaccination and booster shots are still effective at reducing infection and severity of symptoms. The key point here is that "blunt" does not mean "render totally ineffective". Again it feels strange that an English major has to have this pointed out to her.

r3volution.gurl said:
It was a rhetorical question... it's funny you actually believe that though. Sure, that's the goal of how decisions are made, but evidently they aren't made that way because of rampant corruption.. if you're not going to understand what I'm saying or are just going to bring up obvious points, we should end this conversation now. I'm light years ahead of you on information of this civilization and how it functions for exponential growth.



You can believe whatever you want including how informed you are but high self belief is usually a warning sign. From Wikipedia, "The Dunning-Kruger effect is the cognitive bias whereby people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. Some researchers also include in their definition the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills. The Dunning-Kruger effect is usually measured by comparing self-assessment with objective performance".

So I think we should end this conversation right now, or head over to the Conspiracy Theory section.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Baby_Hitler said:
And you can trust the statistics out of those countries about as well as you can trust the USA statistics thanks to the GOP who seem to have a fetish for 3rd world conditions.



I think trees believed he US had really good vaccination rates compared to other countries. It’s the only reason I can think of why he would would think his data supports his provirus attitude




LOL, America ALWAYS does everything best, so why are we worst?

The cognitive dissonance is deafening.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Warrk]
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The first iteration of this thread was posted on January 20th, 2020. Two months before the shit hit the fan in North America.

Started by Hamhead of all people lol banned from his own thread


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/03/22 08:05 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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TrancedOutBrah said:
And low n behold, Texas and Florida with some of the highest covid numbers



FL on the lowest death rate :lol: high vax states are struggling



You guys take the 70% against my 78% as a massive win lol. 70% is what the WHO wanted in the first place. 70% is a a lot of vaccines, seems its americas shit health crisis aiding all the death. How pathetic


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees] * 1
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Jesus fucking Christ dude.
Florida already had their delta wave and it was horrific.

Do you not remember them using up the entire National supply of monoclonal antibody treatments like two months ago when there were 400 people dying every day in that one state alone? Florida has the highest mortality rate in the country for 2021.

Edited by koods (01/03/22 08:23 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Oh thats good! So it ends then and its over. :cheers: everyone


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Florida has the highest mortality count in the country for 2021.



California has both the highest vax and death count since 2020. Florida not quite as bad. It WAS bad for a bit, but not currently. Cali still struggling


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Edited by trees (01/03/22 08:34 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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No it doesn’t. California has one of the lowest covid death rates in the country about 50% lower than Florida.

California’s covid mortality is 0.19%. Florida is 0.29%


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/03/22 08:37 PM)

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