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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens in Massachusetts [Re: Pluviophile]
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if you're wondering whether or not they're present in mass, they definitely are, perhaps not in the same abundance as some of the southern states, but they're definitely there.

But if one were to try and find their first ovoid in mass, it's probably not a good idea to go hunting in december.


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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens in Massachusetts [Re: sbkn]
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Definitely.
I’ve tried to do the best I can in helping spread ovoids in western mass.

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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens in Massachusetts [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
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RenegadeMycologist said:
Psilocybe cyanescens.

It was actually been documented in Massachusetts: https://mushroomobserver.org/observer/advanced_search?q=1lHkl


This is now saying it is ovoidiocystidiata, it hasn't been confirmed as either ovoids or cyanescens, but I think ovoidiocystidiata is more likely.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: Doc9151] * 1
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It was I who had found the underidentified psilocybes posted on MushroomObserver.org and left everyone hanging on microscopics. The prints were left behind at my x-wifes house.
My x-brother is now with the x-thing and my kids... So now, that's that! And there's always next season! Or if anyone has an appearance at the Wareham courthouse, a short walk would be highly advised... Cross the road towards Seasons/Shell, walk along the back side entrance to the last mulchpile with small shrubbery and fill your pockets.

I have also had many encounters with Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata in many states along the East Coast by Foot, Bicycle, Car and by Uhaul... Penn,NJ,MD,VA and off the Little Putuxent in DC.
The Psilocybes I found in Wareham, MA shared no visual characteristics to my eye, nor vibrational memory to me. From all I have seen and learned in my 3 measly yrs of diving in, I firmly believe these are Not Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata... But Psilocybe Stunzii. I was fairly certain at first glance.

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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: PsilocybeMyMind]
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:grin:  :grin:  most would take care to keep their spot hidden..appreciate it though, if I'm ever in cape cod I have a reason to visit Wareham lol


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: sbkn]
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PsilocybeMyMind said:
It was I who had found the underidentified psilocybes posted on MushroomObserver.org and left everyone hanging on microscopics. The prints were left behind at my x-wifes house.
My x-brother is now with the x-thing and my kids... So now, that's that! And there's always next season! Or if anyone has an appearance at the Wareham courthouse, a short walk would be highly advised... Cross the road towards Seasons/Shell, walk along the back side entrance to the last mulchpile with small shrubbery and fill your pockets.

I have also had many encounters with Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata in many states along the East Coast by Foot, Bicycle, Car and by Uhaul... Penn,NJ,MD,VA and off the Little Putuxent in DC.
The Psilocybes I found in Wareham, MA shared no visual characteristics to my eye, nor vibrational memory to me. From all I have seen and learned in my 3 measly yrs of diving in, I firmly believe these are Not Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata... But Psilocybe Stunzii. I was fairly certain at first glance.


Your ID of Ps. Stuntzii seems correct, I don't know much about Stuntzii but they don't look like Ovoids.

Very generous of you to share the spot. Hopefully whoever finds it will keep the spot intact and do some microscopy to confirm the identification.


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: BoogieManSam]
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Absolutely 110% not P. stuntzii. 

I encounter both stuntzii and Ovoids here in Oregon and these are an exact match for the woodchip dwelling ovoids I find in the portland area.  The chonky build, the blue/green bruising throughout the fruit, the ruffled gills, the lighter more brown spore deposit left on the other caps, the thicker and sometimes bending stipes, the lighter caramel caps, and the slightly folded in margin on some of the fruits all look identical to the ovoids I find in Portland.

The stuntzii I find tend to be slimmer in nature, have more of a nipple on the cap, have much more pronounced striation on the margin.



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Smellyhobbit said:
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Edited by Mr Piggy (12/13/21 02:57 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Pluviophile said:
Definitely.
I’ve tried to do the best I can in helping spread ovoids in western mass.


I covered an awful lot of miles in NY and w mass this past spring but the only thing I managed to find was a damn lyme tick. Woods and wood chips both nada. I was beginning to think that they might not be found this far north and from the cost. Guess there's still hope!


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: Icyurmt]
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They're 100% in NY, try looking in woodchip/mulch piles, this is where I've had the most luck.


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: sbkn]
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sbkn said:
They're 100% in NY, try looking in woodchip/mulch piles, this is where I've had the most luck.


Never found Ovoids here in MA but they’re definitely here and in NY. Public gardens and college campuses are good areas too, they tend to both have plenty of mulch landscaping areas.


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: sbkn]
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sbkn said:
They're 100% in NY, try looking in woodchip/mulch piles, this is where I've had the most luck.


I knew that they've been found quite a few times down closer to NYC and areas by the lakes, as well as Mass and Ct by the coast, but downstate weather and climate (the green areas USDA zone 6a-7b) is drastically different than upstate (zone 3b-5b) I'm mostly in 5a areas with some access to 5b. I'll be back out looking this spring but I'm thinking I may need to do some driving and check out more in spots in zone 6 or warmer.



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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: Icyurmt]
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yea, I'm pretty confident they're in your zones, just much scarcer than in southern areas obviously, driving south would definitely be your best option if you wanted to find them asap


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: sbkn]
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Its certainly possible but if you overlay the occurrence map from mushroomobserver onto the USDA zone maps, all of the finds in the Northeast sofar are confined to zones 6 or warmer.. Unless there are others who have found them on here and not posted on MO that I'm not aware of? Could be lack of people looking or it could just be a little too cold? Has anyone had any luck in zone 5 or colder yet?

Im not in any real hurry to find them to be honest, there are plenty of other actives around. I'm mostly just interested in figuring out whether or not they even live in these areas.

Sorry for taking this off topic. Great job on the cyan finds OP!!


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: Icyurmt]
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What do you mean by 'plenty of other actives'? as far as I was aware the only other actives in NY would be caerulipes (which are relatively rare), subs (which are only around in the spring/summer/early fall), maybe gyms(only trace amounts of psilocybin), which other ones were you talking about?


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: sbkn]
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There are a few more but those are the main 3 I was referring to. I wouldn't necessarily call Caerulipes rare but they are small and difficult to spot. Once you know the right habitat to look in they are not at all hard to find.  Tons of horses up here so cinctulus are very abundant in spring (just about as strong as cubes imo) as are large lb+ gym luteus flushes in the fall (someone on here recently tested those @ ~ .6% psilocybin if I'm not mistaken, so also not too much less than cubes). I've had no trouble finding far more than I need at least. Ovoids not so much..


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Edited by Icyurmt (12/14/21 05:11 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: Icyurmt]
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That's interesting, the gyms I've had in NY (in my signature lol) were hardly potent at all, consumed a very large dose and hardly felt a thing, I guess potency really differs with gyms. I've had lots of trouble finding caerulipes, any tips?


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: sbkn]
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Yah I think luteus are one of the stronger gyms, here's a link to the potency test that was done on a NY find https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27495046

As for Caerulipe, wait for end of summer rains when the night temps first drop, then look on and in the leaf litter around very rotted downed hardwood in shady areas. You probably will need to squat down to see them as they are small and blend in well. I have found that places where you often find Hericium sp are prime territory; that's how I initially found them. You want to see alot of downed trees around. They seem to prefer woods over urban (maybe it's the shade?) but I believe they can be found in central park also. Really rotting wood, preferably beech, in shady areas is key, you should be able to rip apart the wood by hand and it needs to be dark/wet so the logs that rot out from the inside with a sheathing of bark still attached are the best. Beech is the most common to find them on and beech bark disease took down a lot of trees in NY making great habitat. Take a look at the 2021 hunting thread, I added a bunch of videos to help everyone get a better eye for their preferred habat
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27408800/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: Icyurmt]
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alright thanks for the tips, I'll check out the thread, my mushroom goal this year will be to find caerulipes finally


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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
Absolutely 110% not P. stuntzii. 

I encounter both stuntzii and Ovoids here in Oregon and these are an exact match for the woodchip dwelling ovoids I find in the portland area.  The chonky build, the blue/green bruising throughout the fruit, the ruffled gills, the lighter more brown spore deposit left on the other caps, the thicker and sometimes bending stipes, the lighter caramel caps, and the slightly folded in margin on some of the fruits all look identical to the ovoids I find in Portland.

The stuntzii I find tend to be slimmer in nature, have more of a nipple on the cap, have much more pronounced striation on the margin.




Well... this is not Portland, Oregon. And not much of anything here will you find alike Oregon but lost souls and lines in the sky...(and possibly P.Stunzii) Phenotypes vary nearly unrecognizably just between MD-PA. Though, if you know an Ovoid. You'll know an Ovoid, after becoming familiar with them, when you see one at least close and personal. Definitely 110% Not Psilocybe Ovoideocystidiata. I've encountered them by the Susquehanna River as well. The stems of the Wareham, MA finds were distinctively thin, though, not mutated or evolved. And all shared the same characteristics as can be seen in photos from the observation. (👇🏼Below👇🏼) ubio

https://mushroomobserver.org/observer/advanced_search?q=1lHkl

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Re: Psilocybe finds in Wareham, Massachusetts... Meh___Not Ovoids. [Re: PsilocybeMyMind]
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Nothing short of a sequence will convince me these are not ovoids.  They might be on the other coast, but they are in an identical chip habitat.



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Smellyhobbit said:
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Edited by Mr Piggy (12/16/21 02:42 PM)

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