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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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Jokeshopbeard said:
feevers said:
People can turn their mind off and tune in to their YouTube rabbit hole or Facebook free thinker group, numb themselves with their role of play of being a freedom fighter, part of a revolutionary movement sticking it to the elites who are trying to control them.


Again; I really don't think it's fair to lump those who watch that Social Media bollocks in to the same group as those who think that one should have complete choice over their bodily autonomy. It's NOT the same thing at all. I have never done the former, yet I have spent practically my whole life fighting for the latter. Freedom to ingest a drug without being a criminal. Freedom to end ones life - without being a criminal. To be free to be homeless. Etc. Etc.

This vaccine is NO different from any of those things, in my eyes.


Arguing against some sort of totalitarian mandate is one thing, that’s not what we have in the US at least. On a federal level there’s room for exemptions or to simply get tested regularly, not exactly overreach during a viral pandemic. In the private sector, companies have always had the freedom to mandate vaccinations and I’ve been receiving them for over a decade, I didn’t agree with those ones until I actually took the time to understand the science and real world effect, now I wholeheartedly do. Employees have the freedom to move on if they disagree... freedom is attractive for many people until they have to actually make any sort of sacrifice to achieve it.

I don’t argue for or against mandates though, just giving my 2 cents on the personal decision that all of us have on whether to get vaccinated or not.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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trees said:
Koods and Mr. Guesswork would immediatley sign up to be informants of the thought-police for the regime in their most coveted dystopian fairytale.


I REALLY don't think it's fair to put koods and GuessWork in the same category man. That might be rooting for the same side/eventual outcome, but you can see the humour in the posts of the latter. IME, the former is just hate and vitriol.

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To be fair, I have been picking on trees in this thread, so he's allowed to poke back a bit as far as I'm concerned. I assume it's in good fun. The jimmies must be rustled. I'm okay with some dirty play in the online pub as long as we can all step back and appreciate it as a sport too. I think it adds some depth to the playfulness and that can facilitate discussion in some ways. There's lots of emotion in this stuff and it's good to experiment with it a bit. For example, I'm hoping to rage bait trees into taking the time to read his links and post summaries to make him a better poster. I believe in him now that I know he's fully vaccinated.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
I've never taken a poll and I support vaccine mandates, how does that figure into your math? They've been a fact of life for America for over half a century. COVID is no different. We're all lucky enough to be in a society where we can develop and release vaccines as safe and effective as these proved to be, as quickly as we did. Some of us aren't lucky enough to be capable of seeing it that way, unfortunately.


Yeah, the idea that anti vaxxers are the ones who would pass up a poll asking “Do you support vaccine mandates?” pretty much sums up trees’ stance on this issue.

Everything trees wants to believe is true. Everything trees does not want to believe is false.

Trees doesn’t need facts, he has emotions. He will use mainstream media articles to make points, but if you use research to support your argument you are wrong.

Hamhead was a far more entertaining troll, even Enkidu put in a better effort

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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Hamhead was dangerous because he was quite proficient in charlatanism, and had both the time and energy to engage in it seemingly ad infinitum. I still think there was some sort of personality disorder at play with him. He could contribute to society in a meaningful and significant way if it were not for whatever neurosis plagues him.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: trees]
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trees said:
You are failing to realize who goes to those websites and take the polls. Useless bullshit info alls those polls are


You don’t like the results so you just pretend they aren’t true. Vaccine mandates are extremely popular.

Aside from the people who are afraid or the shot or afraid of their freedoms being taken away, like JSB, most people like the mandates. It’s a good way to sort out the trash.

Vaccine mandates have been a part of American life for decades. Everyone who grew up in the United States has been subject to them. I really don’t understand what is different now. Adults have turned into crybabies and snowflakes.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/01/21 12:33 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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koods said:
Aside from the people who are afraid or the shot or afraid of their freedoms being taken away, like JSB, most people like the mandates. It’s a good way to sort out the trash.


Again, I'm not afraid of them being taken away; I will happily fight and die for freedom. Can't think of a way I'd rather die TBH, and I'm excited about death. Something which I could almost say absolutely you would never do, because you come off as quite the abject coward, afraid of death itself, like most people. I get it. I'm not one of them. But after yesterday, I made up my mind to accept your constant projections and laugh at your stupidity instead of fighting you, cause it's got really boring continuing do so. So, err, Ha Ha. LOL.


Mr.GuessWork said:
To be fair, I have been picking on trees in this thread, so he's allowed to poke back a bit as far as I'm concerned. I assume it's in good fun. The jimmies must be rustled. I'm okay with some dirty play in the online pub as long as we can all step back and appreciate it as a sport too. I think it adds some depth to the playfulness and that can facilitate discussion in some ways. There's lots of emotion in this stuff and it's good to experiment with it a bit. For example, I'm hoping to rage bait trees into taking the time to read his links and post summaries to make him a better poster. I believe in him now that I know he's fully vaccinated.


Well said mate. Good craic 'n all. I very much enjoy the banter between 99% of people here. Carry on. Smoke weed e'ry day!!


feevers said:
Arguing against some sort of totalitarian mandate is one thing, that’s not what we have in the US at least.


Fair do's mate, I think many are for that, and in many places it is going that way (Victoria, Australia, and Austria already have), and I just really don't want to see it happen all over.

Of course there's fuck all I can do to stop it if it does, other than fuck off my job and go and join the rioters where they're strongest.

Which, now I come to think of it, will almost certainly be my course of action if it came to it.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
Hamhead was dangerous because he was quite proficient in charlatanism, and had both the time and energy to engage in it seemingly ad infinitum. I still think there was some sort of personality disorder at play with him. He could contribute to society in a meaningful and significant way if it were not for whatever neurosis plagues him.


If I remember right he was on his 400th or so day in a row of taking mushrooms twice a day when Covid hit. I'm guessing his wholehearted belief in any conspiracy of the day had a lot to do with his brain just experiencing patterns and connections that weren't really there. Breaks are important to stay in touch with reality even with small doses

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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You say shit like this...

Jokeshopbeard said:
Fights/debates with honour are all good in my book - they're fun - it's just that below the belt kinda shit that people like koods and 1234go and they guy that did the above play that I want no part of.




Then you go, and behave like this...

Jokeshopbeard said:
Something which I could almost say absolutely you would never do, because you come off as quite the abject coward, afraid of death itself, like most people. I get it. I'm not one of them. But after yesterday, I made up my mind to accept your constant projections and laugh at your stupidity instead of fighting you, cause it's got really boring continuing do so. So, err, Ha Ha. LOL.



...and I've seen you say MUCH worse things to certain members here.

Yeah, not below the belt at all. So much honour in these little rebuttals of yours.

You talk WAY too much.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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Interesting little watch. I particularly enjoyed the doctors prefer cigarettes commercial. :lol:


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: mycosis]
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LOL, 6:10 for that bit. Well worth a watch, had me chuckling.

I was once rather partial to those filterless Camels, TBF.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Lol jsb gets so bent out of shape when someone says he’s afraid. Typical fragile masculinity. He probably gets into a lot of bar fights.

Quote:
Again, I'm not afraid of them being taken away; I will happily fight and die for freedom. Can't think of a way I'd rather die TBH, and I'm excited about death. Something which I could almost say absolutely you would never do, because you come off as quite the abject coward, afraid of death itself, like most people


Totally unhinged tough guy


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/01/21 01:10 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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You obviously don't read my posts. I used to. I found it immensely fun:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
I forgot they have civilized pub fights where you're from. Might be an American perspective on my part. The guns always ruin the friendliness of fights here. As long as joints are being smoked, I'm happy.


Appreciate your outlook and insight brother. It's for sure like that where I grew up; I spent at least a dozen years of my youth brawling. It was only the very last fight I ever had that turned truly dirty; when a guy sucker punched me in the base of the brain stem as I was walking away after he refused a gentlemanly toe-to-toe and then proceeded to stop my head into practical mush as I lay unconscious on the ground that turned me off of all that. Fights/debates with honour are all good in my book - they're fun - it's just that below the belt kinda shit that people like koods and 1234go and they guy that did the above play that I want no part of.


I am, at this point in my life however (and have been over a dozen years now), a complete pacifist.

I've had a couple of guys come at me since I committed to it but I'm pretty good at ducking and rolling and saying 'I am not going to fight you' when doing so, so no harm done.

You've probably never stood up for yourself in a proper fight. You've that cowardliness about you that I've seen in many that runs to save its own skin and leaves its friends weakened for it.

koods said:
Totally unhinged tough guy


Being unafraid of death is unhinged!??!?

I suppose you know nothing of the honour of the Bushido code and how they were taught to be ready for death at an early age?

Jesus, being anything BUT ready and accepting of it seems like absolute madness to me.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Make sure everyone knows how unafraid you are. You’re a big tough strong man. Yes you are.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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No, I was only saying it to you in the hope that you *might* understand/respect my POV and thus redirect your arguments to me to be a little more relevant to me so that our debate could carry on and be a little more enjoyable and progress a little further, cause we've been going round in circles for a while now.

But whatever, I enjoy it either way. Progress would just add a touch more enjoyment though, I think.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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I always try to make people think I'm crazy in these situations. It's usually a better deterrent than making people believe you aren't afraid. maybe that's what going on the antivaxers.

:hmm:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
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Quote:
Can't think of a way I'd rather die TBH, and I'm excited about death.


how about from working on the front line during a pandemic? I never wished for it but I was never super personally afraid because to me, dying in the effort to save lives during a pandemic is about as noble a death as I could hope for.  I'm not trying to blow smoke up my own ass. I'm trying to show that the pursuit of  identities like "antivaxxer" is mostly done by people who lack an identity that gives their life meaning/purpose. Those with meaningful identities have a social incentive to act in a way that is cooperative and goal driven rather than 'principled', and are thus likely to see vaccination as a no-brainer. This leads to a sense of bafflement on their part, which many turn into hate and bullying of anti-vaxxers, which increases the solidarity felt by anti-vaxxers when validating one another, and it just goes in a cycle.

For many people this sense of purpose is simply being a parent.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
For many people this sense of purpose is simply being a parent.


I agree. It's boil in the bag sense of purpose to be one.

However I am not and never will be, and so my focus is on freedom and equality of the whole human race, and I have worked to align my sense of purpose with that.

I don't honestly give a flying fuck who likes it and who doesn't. It's a life that was forced upon me and I'm trying to do my best with it. I just hope my death can be in service of my dream and (ideally) in service to another. And before anyone says it, no, this vaccine shit does not equate to that (in my eyes). I think forcing anything on anyone is fucking horrible in the extreme.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Bloody Englishman came in here invoking William Fucking Wallace in defense of the "freedom" to not get a tiny prick in the arm, you ought to be ashamed, mate

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Lynnch]
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Freedom not to be *forced* to do anything, thank you very much Sir.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Can’t make the most minor of sacrifices for the good of people around you. It’s pathetic.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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