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Trichloma species - Matsutake? San Fran
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Found in the Presidio in San Francisco today.  I'm from the east coast and have never found matsutake so I was hoping this was them but frankly I would not call the smell a provacative combo of red hots and dirty gymn socks.  Kind of a fishy mushroomy smell.  Taste kinda nice from raw nibble but I would expect more flavor from what I have read about matsutake. 

No spore print and I'm not sure these little guys would give me one but I have a broken piece of one that I could try to get a color from if that would help and I'm wrong about the trichloma part.


Any help identifying would be greatly appreciated.  Also, would appreciate cooking suggestion as I'm planning on doing something Asian-y with udon noodles, soup or something as I understand that's the thing to do.  Thank you in advance!






sorry for the shitty in situ picture, old shitty phone


trees they were under.  thank you!!!

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Re: Trichloma species - Matsutake? San Fran [Re: otown2]
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I can tell you that though they are a very similar shape, they really do not look like Matsutake....  (American) Matsutake don't have dark top (the true Japanese ones are darker, but don't occur here).. they have some caramel-y scaling sometimes, but definitely not the dark brown, hairy appearance those have, they have a distinctive ash covered stipe tip and the gills are quite white. The odor of a real Matsutake is unmistakable - they definitely do not just smell mushroomy - they smell pine-y and spicy, hard to describe but very distinctive. They don't bruise dark brown the way those appear to have.

I *think* they may be Tricholoma caligatum - but I've never seen one in person...

Are the gills actually brown like that, or is that one just starting to go bad?

P.S - my avatar is a matsutake... there are some full sized images in my gallery.'


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Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.

Edited by Magic Badger (11/28/21 02:09 AM)

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Re: Trichloma species - Matsutake? San Fran [Re: Magic Badger]
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Magic Badger said:
I *think* they may be Tricholoma caligatum



These look similar, I agree. Tricky genus in any case.


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Re: Trichloma species - Matsutake? San Fran [Re: Anglerfish]
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You have an Agaricus species, and a really cool one.  The trees you posted are Cupressus macrocarpus, which are the best trees to find cool Agaricus species under.  Where in SF did you find these?  PM if you don't want to give away the spot to the world.

Agaricus brunneofibrillosus is what you found if they stain crimson red when cut.

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