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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: nooneman] * 2
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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: budmanman]
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This thing has been floating around for more than a month and they’re seeing a couple thousand cases with heightened vigilance. I’m not convinced it’s particularly virulent. The only reason it’s making so much noise is because there were almost no cases in South Africa until two weeks ago so it’s making a big impact despite there not being that many cases.

Israel has closed their borders. Pretty ridiculous IMO


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/27/21 06:49 PM)

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: nooneman]
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There is plenty of evidence that people with the vaccine still get and spread covid....for instance my bosses wife is fully vaccinated and had a booster....she just recovered from covid.

So vaccines only lesson symptoms nowadays? I'm super glad my polio symptoms are manageable; I wouldn't want the problems my father went through before the vaccine came out.

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
spinvis said:
koods said:
The travel ban is completely useless. We don’t know where this variant originated. Somewhere in the southern part of Africa, most likely. South Africa is just the country that had the technology to detect it. It’s already been detected in places around the world. We don’t know what will happen to this variant in places where delta is prevalent. I think this is all being blown way out of proportion.



It was first detected in Botswana amongst four fully vaccinated individuals, they are foreign nationals, and where on a diplomatic mission. More info directly from the Botswana government here;
https://twitter.com/_/status/1464184386912501764
https://twitter.com/_/status/1463874240130785280

I agree it's been blown out of proportion, while simultaneously forgetting about the topography of southern Africa, and the official statements made by the government of Botswana, but I guess that's the media propaganda machine at work for you.



It’s a variant of the beta variant, so very likely it evolved in that part of the world. The beta variant never took off anywhere else. I’ve seen discussion that there are too many mutations to be explained by the normal evolution that occurs when the virus is passed from person to person and that it likely evolved in an immunocompromised person who never cleared their original infection  and the virus was able to use a single person to select the various mutations that occurred over a period of months.



Do you have a reliable source to back up those claims? Else it's just unfounded speculation.

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: koods]
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They thought there was a flu outbreak despite the season (southern hemisphere) but it turned out to be Omicron.

Had it been highly lethal they would have seen that soon enough, its likely plenty contagious. If however it defies the vaccine, here we go again.


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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: The Influence]
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The Influence said:
There is plenty of evidence that people with the vaccine still get and spread covid....for instance my bosses wife is fully vaccinated and had a booster....she just recovered from covid.

So vaccines only lesson symptoms nowadays? I'm super glad my polio symptoms are manageable; I wouldn't want the problems my father went through before the vaccine came out.



That’s pretty much how all vaccines work. The smallpox vaccine only prevents infection for a few years. It protects against serious cases for life.

The fact is that the three shot regime reduces the chance of infection  by 95%. That’s just about as good as any vaccine for any disease out there.

I’m guessing your bosses wife is immunocompromised if she still got covid after the third shot


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: koods]
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koods said:
The Influence said:
There is plenty of evidence that people with the vaccine still get and spread covid....for instance my bosses wife is fully vaccinated and had a booster....she just recovered from covid.

So vaccines only lesson symptoms nowadays? I'm super glad my polio symptoms are manageable; I wouldn't want the problems my father went through before the vaccine came out.



That’s pretty much how all vaccines work. The smallpox vaccine only prevents infection for a few years. It protects against serious cases for life.

The fact is that the three shot regime reduces the chance of infection  by 95%. That’s just about as good as any vaccine for any disease out there.

I’m guessing your bosses wife is immunocompromised if she still got covid after the third shot



I can't argue how effective vaccines are overall, because I've never looked into it that far. I just have never read reports of people contracting a less severe case of things like polio and I've only been vaccinated against it once. My father almost died from it as a kid.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer nor am I one of the off kilter people claiming covid is fake. I believe it's real, I believe the death rate and its tragic. I do not believe the vaccine is effective as a vaccine though. At least compared to other vaccines. Ive read to many reports about "breakthrough" cases to allow me to believe it's that effective and now I personally know someone fully vaccinated that came down with it.

To my knowledge she is not immunocompromised; she is in her late 50's but seems overall pretty healthy the 7 years I've worked there.

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: The Influence] * 1
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Florida now has lowest Covid 19 per capita as libtards get mega sick


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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: budmanman]
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  I just have never read reports of people contracting a less severe case of things like polio and I've only been vaccinated against it once. My father almost died from it as a kid.



Even without immunity 95% of polio cases are asymptomatic, 1% get some level of paralysis and 0.15% die.

The polio vaccine doesn’t prevent all infections. It prevents the infection from migrating to the nervous system and therefore prevents serious disease.

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Inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) consists of inactivated (killed) strains of all three poliovirus types. IPV is given by intramuscular injection and must be administered by a trained health worker. IPV produces antibodies in the blood to all three types of poliovirus. In the event of infection, these antibodies prevent the spread of the virus to the central nervous system and protect against paralysis. In this way, IPV prevents infection, but it does not stop transmission of the virus.



Similarly the covid vaccines do not prevent all infections (but they do prevent most infections), but in the case of infection the immunity prevents the virus from infecting the lower respiratory tract and other areas outside of the nasopharynx.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/27/21 07:32 PM)

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: koods]
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I guess I've misunderstood what a vaccine is my entire life. I sincerely thank you for doing the research I could've done to become more informed on this topic.

My hang up yet is even that says it does not stop people from contracting or transmitting poliovirus. So my honest question is; how will a vaccine save us from the coronavirus?

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: budmanman]
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budmanman said:
Florida now has lowest Covid 19 per capita as libtards get mega sick



15,000 people died in Florida since august.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: koods] * 1
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You obviously don't have to; but I'm genuinely interested in knowing how being vaccinated will eradicate covid if people can still carry and transmit a virus after being vaccinated.

I'm pretty open minded when it comes to other people's points of view or knowledge. You explain that to me I'll go get fully vaccinated and post pics to prove it.

I just feel that I'm playing with my own life at this point and if people are vaccinated, how am I harming them?

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: The Influence] * 1
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The Influence said:
I guess I've misunderstood what a vaccine is my entire life. I sincerely thank you for doing the research I could've done to become more informed on this topic.

My hang up yet is even that says it does not stop people from contracting or transmitting poliovirus. So my honest question is; how will a vaccine save us from the coronavirus?



It prevents people from getting seriously ill. But the fact that it does prevent a large majority of infections from occurring in the first place means that it is likely that an entirely vaccinated population couldn’t support the spread of the virus. But even if it can, which will be the case down the road because all coronaviruses evade natural immunity after a year or two, we have to assume the same for the vaccines. But previous immunity prevents serious illness for much much longer.

Unless you get a booster every year or two everybody will be able to catch covid many times in their life. It’s only the first infection without previous immunity that is really dangerous. Every time you get reinfected or a booster your levels of circulating antibodies are increased and that will prevent infection for a period of time before they diminish to a level that can’t prevent infection. You only get more antibodies when infected or when you get a vaccine dose. People think that the evolutionary purpose of antibodies is to prevent infection but they are actually there to clear the virus after infection has occurred, which is why they are only produced in response to infection (or the simulated infection of a vaccine). The reason acquired immunity is so important is that it only takes a day or two for the body to start pumping out antibodies if you have previous exposure because you have mature memory cells that know how to make them immediately upon infection. Without previous exposure it takes a week or more for these cells to mature before they can make antibodies and until that point, the body is reliant on a different branch of the immune system to fight of infection.


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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
budmanman said:
Florida now has lowest Covid 19 per capita as libtards get mega sick



15,000 people died in Florida since august.



Nice, now florida has the lowest covid 19 cases per capita in the entire nation.


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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: budmanman]
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So does anyone know how Austria plans to enforce the vaccine mandate? I mean already there were like 50,000 protesters, so there's definitely opposition.



What's the penalty?

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: Fiery]
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They get thrown in the ovens with the other undesirables! :cookiemonster:

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: budmanman] * 2
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budmanman said:
koods said:
budmanman said:
Florida now has lowest Covid 19 per capita as libtards get mega sick



15,000 people died in Florida since august.



Nice, now florida has the lowest covid 19 cases per capita in the entire nation.



Nice? What’s nice about 15,000 deaths that could have been prevented with the vaccine and you’d end up in the same place. It’s sociopathic.


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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: koods]
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It is a retirement state with old people, the vaccine doesn't even barely work on retiree's


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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: budmanman]
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retiree's need the quadruple shot and triple mask or they get thrown in with the undesirables! :cookiemonster:

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Re: New Covid Variant from South Africa super deadly mega dangerous strain. [Re: budmanman]
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And over half their population is fully vaccinated anyway. They're ate 61% fully vaccinated.


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