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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
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bloodsheen said:
Ok Charles Manson. I'm curious what exactly this Second American Civil War looks like in your mind? People hiding behind Starbucks with a rocket launcher waiting for a Liberal Army convoy? Puh-lease, Americans would have to get off their phones long enough to meet up at the Waffle House for a tactical meeting  but not if the new season of Stranger Things is out


Lol touche :lol:

I don't think he meant actually all out warfare in the streets, but man the political climate & environment is exceedingly toxic right now. The hatred from both sides is at an all-time high. At least in my lifetime.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
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OP to your original point, people are losing their shit because they, as you are, have been spoon fed absolute crap and lies from the media lol. Stop reading articles. Stop reading the news or listening to those sowing chaos. Politics? Throw them out the window lol. Rhetoric in the trash. Develop your own ideas and learn from experience rather than being told what to think.
Go out live life and enjoy each other and you will find the world is not such a scary place after all!

That’s my 2 cents. No politician is responsible for what is put on your television.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: mycosis]
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mycosis said:
Is Trudeau's dangerous rhetoric to blame?


Not that I'm aware of. Could be a gang war for all I know.

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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Wonder Boy] * 4
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Don't go to the news feed, get off social media, don't buy into that shit and do something positive for your community. The world is what you make it and "journalists" are in a dying industry that sensationalize the news to sell clicks.

It ain't so bad. Violent crime near the lowest point in recorded history, and most of us are in some of the safest countries in the world. It ain't perfect, but there is no sense being scared of shit that doesn't exist or you can't do anything about.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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The US is not heading into a civil war and criminals don't have easy access to guns.  It's HARD to get a gun as a felon.  And civil war requires some sort of safe boundry and Government.

It's rebellion and that is all.  Squashed by Government as usual.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: bloodsheen]
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In relation to "doing something" and how the hippies were persecuted, watched and sometimes jailed. Well, the Australian government watches me. I'm not an ordinary bloke. I don't accept pretty much any scientific outlook on reality, I have my own understanding, and the government watches me because it is obviously right, and it is growing in breadth of understanding, and that means boundaries in society are becoming shaky from what I know, since they do not know if I cross them or not, or to what extent, and how it influences the world around me, not only socially and culturally by setting an example but by hints at the possibility that even the weather in my vicinity is influenced by my state of mind.

However from what I can gather they are pretty satisfied with my behaviour given it's impossible for anyone to know what sort of power I may have. I may have more than even I imagine presently. My brother is a homocide detective in the Police force and we are quite close, so I'm a member of the "Police family" and in at least two recent and severe instances of breaking the law I believe there have been some discussions about making the consequences easier for me, before applying a penalty.

I keep no secrets and plan to keep it this way. I try harder than I should to try and open people up to my ideas on daily basis in quite a sustained manner. I bring only love into society no matter how many people feel threatened by the X or question marks concerning my understanding and position, and I discipline and suffer myself in order to keep this love applying itself. I am strictly non-seditionist but I encourage denying most cultural practices and at least for now I have very little interest in going to any institutions to learn or belong.

What I know, if disseminated properly and maturely into society, will be nothing but a positive boon for absolutely every member of the Australian public. The government can see this and pretty much every Police car I go by shows a keen interest in my present circumstances, always positive, quite often with big grins. As it disseminates, I will lose any edge I may or may not have over others, and I discipline my thinking somewhat to make sure this eventuates, not for any moral reason however, but just as a matter of good sense and good nature.

So I mean. If you just get it RIGHT then you don't even have to have enemies, not even government.

SO DO SOMETHING ALREADY. :laugh:

PS. No I am not delusional. :laugh:


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Edited by beforethedawn (08/08/19 07:35 PM)

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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: beforethedawn]
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And yes talking about civil war in the US is outside my own political and social education, it was more a provocative statement, but some others are suggesting it's possible in this thread, so maybe it is.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Morel Guy]
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The corporates wouldn't allow a civil war. It's bad for business.


Confusion and mistrust keep the economy juiced.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: beforethedawn]
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No it's not.  There is very clear difference between rebellion and civil war.  As much as rednecks draped in Rebel flags would like for you to think otherwise.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
Antigov said:
Whether we like it or not the US is headed towards another civil war. Some say the war has started. I blame the divide politics of both sides. We live in an age where there is no “live and let live” or “agree to disagree”.


Dude I 100% agree. It's completely out of control, and I too blame both sides. The hatred and venom that is spewed from both sides is at such a boiling point that I just don't see it reversing. It's only getting worse. I'm hoping, probably against hope, to be wrong on this. And absolutely, the days of agreeing to disagree, or having a mature, respectable debate and agreement of differences is seemingly a thing of the past. I think most moderate Republican citizens and Democratic citizens are fine, thing is, the number of far-right and far-left citizens, I would guess, has spiked dramatically. These are the types of people that probably cheer the deaths of anyone on the other side.

We need to respect other citizen's rights to have philosophical differences politically, and be able to sit down and discuss it like mature adults, respectfully, and still be able to shake hands after. But that ain't happening anymore. In fact we're so devoid of that anymore that the shit sounds like some completely fictional fantasy.


Ever hear of the Sumner Caning Incident? A politician during a debate was nearly beaten to death with a cane. And the response from his constituents, was it outrage at his excessive behavior? They sent him engraved canes with supportive messages.

It's all the media. People aren't any more extreme than they used to be. In America there are still people alive who remember a time when it was reasonable to believe that black people shouldn't be part of general society, i.e. segregation. People have been espousing fears of a civil war since probably the fucking civil war. There is absolutely no reason to believe now is any different


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A cautious young fellow named Lodge / Had seat belts installed in his Dodge. / When his date was strapped in / He committed a sin / Without even leaving the garage. That's clever, isn't it?-A boy and his dog

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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: badchad]
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badchad said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
Huh, interesting. Looks like the 90's were violent as fuck.

So what public health concern is more deadly than mass shootings?


That's a difficult question, but one approach to identifying/ranking public harms is looking at death statistics. You're probably aware that heart disease kills something like 600k people a year. Probably 20 times more people than gun-related violence (I'm generalizing my numbers here). But more importantly, decreasing heart disease could likely be achieved super easily: diet modification and 20 minutes of activity per day.

I'm not trying to minimalize gun violence. I think something should be done. I'm just trying to point out the average person's response to gun violence is far more emotional/visceral than other things. We should be aware of relative harms to keep things in perspective here.


Actually the solution to gun crime is not that complicated. Get rid of the guns. That’s the solution. It wouldn’t happen overnight but it would work. We just refuse to do it.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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Ahab McBathsalts said:
Don't go to the news feed, get off social media, don't buy into that shit and do something positive for your community. The world is what you make it and "journalists" are in a dying industry that sensationalize the news to sell clicks.

It ain't so bad. Violent crime near the lowest point in recorded history, and most of us are in some of the safest countries in the world. It ain't perfect, but there is no sense being scared of shit that doesn't exist or you can't do anything about.


Yeah being murdered is incredibly unlikely for most people in the first world who don't associate with very bad people. If you're going to die from some sudden unexpected circumstance, it's a lot more likely to be something mundane like a car crash.

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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: SocalJosh]
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SocalJosh said:
OP to your original point, people are losing their shit because they, as you are, have been spoon fed absolute crap and lies from the media lol. Stop reading articles. Stop reading the news or listening to those sowing chaos. Politics? Throw them out the window lol. Rhetoric in the trash. Develop your own ideas and learn from experience rather than being told what to think.
Go out live life and enjoy each other and you will find the world is not such a scary place after all!

That’s my 2 cents. No politician is responsible for what is put on your television.


This


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: bloodsheen]
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Media is a very general broad term that I feel you are using only for mainstream media.

It's really not media.  Media is reporting on what they feel gets a reaction.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: psi]
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psi said:
Patlal said:
Everything is good in Canada.  Well almost everything. It's raining right now.

Take the guns away and the US will be good too.


Something like 17 people were shot last weekend in Toronto though.


There's 6 million people inToronto.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Patlal]
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I've never been further out of the USA than Toronto.  Lol.


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
I've never been further out of the USA than Toronto.  Lol.


Did you like it?


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Patlal]
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It was clean and polite that I recall


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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
bloodsheen said:
Ok Charles Manson. I'm curious what exactly this Second American Civil War looks like in your mind? People hiding behind Starbucks with a rocket launcher waiting for a Liberal Army convoy? Puh-lease, Americans would have to get off their phones long enough to meet up at the Waffle House for a tactical meeting  but not if the new season of Stranger Things is out


Lol touche :lol:

I don't think he meant actually all out warfare in the streets, but man the political climate & environment is exceedingly toxic right now. The hatred from both sides is at an all-time high. At least in my lifetime.


There is hatred on both sides, but one side is distinctly more violent.

We have children being beaten in public for not showing an acceptable level of patriotism:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/montana-man-slams-13-year-old-breaks-skull-hat-national-anthem.amp

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A 39-year-old man has been charged with felony assault of a minor in Montana after he allegedly slammed a 13-year-old boy to the ground for not taking his hat off during the national anthem. The incident took place Saturday at the Mineral County Fair and Rodeo in western Montana. Witnesses told a local CBS affiliate that as the anthem began, Curt Brockway grabbed the teen, picked him up, and then slammed him headfirst to the ground. As people nearby approached, Brockway said he slammed the boy to the ground because of his hat. “He said (the boy) was disrespecting the national anthem so he had every right to do that,” eyewitness Taylor Hennick said. Brockway told a sheriff’s deputy that he had asked the boy to remove his hat for the anthem and that the boy cursed in response, though eyewitnesses did not corroborate that portion of Brockway’s retelling.



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Re: People in general are losing their shit. [Re: koods]
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And people think this is Ok because they identify too much with nationalism.


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