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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: XUL] * 2
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XUL said:
My reply:

Those aren't harmful or racist ideas.

The pattern I see is that anything you disapprove of is deemed racist.

Hell, I disapprove of Omar, but I don't think she is racist. I really don't.

Just because you disapprove with ideas, doesn't mean those people are racists.



By "those [...] ideas", I want to be clear that we are both talking about private prisons.

Here is some evidence for how private prisons are both harmful and rascist:

https://www.afscme.org/now/why-prison-privatization-is-bad-a-case-study
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/03/13/289000532/why-for-profit-prisons-house-more-inmates-of-color
http://www.justicepolicy.org/mobile/news/12006
https://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/davisprison.html

Private prisons aren't merely racist because I disapprove of them - they directly contribute to disproportionate harm to the black community. That's why I call them racist.

Private prisons being neither harmful or racist appears to have been your only criticism of my response, and I believe I have responded sufficiently. Do you have another rebut?


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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It seems that leftist culture is racist in and of itself, although most people in a 1v1 basis are probably normal cats.

But mob rule has taken over.

If one does not tow the line, they are racists.

Point and case: Candace Owens.


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Edited by XUL (05/05/19 08:21 AM)

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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: XUL] * 1
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Stop screaming racism to shut down debate!


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: XUL] * 1
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Brian Jones said:
qman said:
Brian Jones said:
That most of the leftists here have attacked your family.



Many have around here, I've seen it on many different occasions by several different members. :shrug:



Someone should refresh my memory.



XUL said:
I just did.

Further, when you blow the whistle, the offending text is deleted.



You related an anecdote about one person making remarks. If you don't have evidence that most of the leftists here have attacked your family, then I say you make shit up.


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Why are you so anti-white? Why are you so anti-black people not being anti-white?


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
Stop screaming racism to shut down debate!



Like I said, it's reverse racism.

Watch large groups of white liberals shout down a black woman.

Take a picture of that, make the photograph black and white, and you have your Jim crow again.


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Edited by XUL (05/05/19 08:30 AM)

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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: XUL]
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It's not reverse racism exactly. It's the convergence of white savior complex and black representation being present in what is perceived by cultural marxists as being a whites only political orientation. Instead of allowing the resultant cognitive dissonance to inspire the inevitable re-evaluation of their position, they attack the black.


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: XUL] * 2
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Hey XUL, I challenge you to a debate on Candace Owens, in the style of this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25913141 because I want you to be forced to honestly debate me.

You can choose the moderator, but I have to agree to them.


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: Great Scott]
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Well said.

I agree.

So what do you call this phenomenon?


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
XUL said:
My reply:

Those aren't harmful or racist ideas.

The pattern I see is that anything you disapprove of is deemed racist.

Hell, I disapprove of Omar, but I don't think she is racist. I really don't.

Just because you disapprove with ideas, doesn't mean those people are racists.



By "those [...] ideas", I want to be clear that we are both talking about private prisons.

Here is some evidence for how private prisons are both harmful and rascist:

https://www.afscme.org/now/why-prison-privatization-is-bad-a-case-study
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/03/13/289000532/why-for-profit-prisons-house-more-inmates-of-color
http://www.justicepolicy.org/mobile/news/12006
https://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/davisprison.html

Private prisons aren't merely racist because I disapprove of them - they directly contribute to disproportionate harm to the black community. That's why I call them racist.

Private prisons being neither harmful or racist appears to have been your only criticism of my response, and I believe I have responded sufficiently. Do you have another rebut?



How are private prisons racist?  Your links don't answer that question.

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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
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An example of her lack of integrity? This article is from 2016, before her switch to conservative, where she talks about the harm she suffered as a victim of racism; and this article, from two months ago, has her saying racism is over because she's never been a slave.
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Holy shit, she's the socialautopsy chick?
Quote:
She launched the site, SocialAutopsy.com on Friday. It will allow social media users to take screenshots of posts they find offensive and send them to the site, which then collects them into an easily accessible profile. The website will have a search engine allowing users to type in someone’s name and see if they’ve made offensive comments online.

If people think their mean words might be seen by a potential employer or someone else to whom they want to present their best self, they might be more careful about what they say, Owens said.

“We’re just trying to make people remember that they’re human,” she said.

Owens also called on Gov. Malloy to join her campaign against online bullying. Saturday, a Malloy spokesman issued the following statement:

“Dan Malloy has been a longtime advocate against bullying, and shared his own personal stories of being bullied while growing up with a disability,” said Chris Cooney, a Malloy family friend and spokesperson. “He and his wife Cathy have spent their careers working with victims of crisis and abuse. We respect Ms. Owens' right to tell her story and have her voice heard.”

Though Owens’ new website might make some social media users blanch, it doesn’t technically seem to violate any free speech rules, said Dan Barrett, legal director of the ACLU of Connecticut. “As long as the speech that the site is collecting was intended to be public in the first place, it’s fair game,” Barrett said.

Owens, meanwhile, said her site doesn’t limit freedom of speech — it just lets people know it has consequences.

“What we’re doing is taking that freedom of speech and archiving it,” she said.



she basically systematized the practice of using people's old tweets and stuff against them
:lol:

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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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Candace Owens exists so conservatives like XUL can pretend the left hates her for being black.

It’s the same shit conservatives go crazy over leftists allegedly doing with Muslims (or gays or sikhs or mexicans): you’re just pretending to like this person because their demographic furthers your political agenda. That is Candace Owens.


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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Conservatism and patriotism are ideas that any color of person can adopt.

That doesn't make them racist.

Her message is clear. Promote Christianity, family values, and the move away from welfare towards independence.

There is nothing racist about it

All those things are common and normal.


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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qman said:
How are private prisons racist?  Your links don't answer that question.



The connection is made in my third link. Private prisons, seeking the bottom line, prefer low-cost inmates; this commonly translates to younger and healthier. Younger, healthier inmates, the study found — who've come into the system since the war on drugs went into effect — are disproportionately people of color.

In effect, this means that people of colour are disproportionately harmed by private prisons. This racist effect isn't necessarily intentional - in fact, it seems most likely to be a side effect of seeking greater profits. Still, an institution that disproportionately harms people of colour should be deemed racist, intentional or not.


Tantrika said:
shivas.wisdom said:
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An example of her lack of integrity? This article is from 2016, before her switch to conservative, where she talks about the harm she suffered as a victim of racism; and this article, from two months ago, has her saying racism is over because she's never been a slave.
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Holy shit, she's the socialautopsy chick?

she basically systematized the practice of using people's old tweets and stuff against them
:lol:



Yes, she is. And after failing as an SJW, now she's trying her hand as a Trumpet.


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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She snapped out of it.

Like me.


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
Hey XUL, I challenge you to a debate on Candace Owens, in the style of this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25913141 because I want you to be forced to honestly debate me.

You can choose the moderator, but I have to agree to them.




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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: XUL] * 1
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Anyone who supports trump and talks about family values can go fuck themselves - MAGA is led by a debased, degenerate, dishonest fornicator who has cheated on all his wives. You don’t care about family values.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (05/05/19 09:19 AM)

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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
Conservatism and patriotism are ideas that any color of person can adopt.

That doesn't make them racist.

Her message is clear. Promote Christianity, family values, and the move away from welfare towards independence.

There is nothing racist about it

All those things are common and normal.



If race has nothing to do with it then why is Candace Owens so popular with conservatives?


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
shivas.wisdom said:
Hey XUL, I challenge you to a debate on Candace Owens, in the style of this thread https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25913141 because I want you to be forced to honestly debate me.

You can choose the moderator, but I have to agree to them.





No.

I'm not going to defend Candace Owens' life against attacks.

I simply like her ideas. Conservatism, Christianity, and moving away from welfare towards independence.

You can debate me if you would like.

But I am not debating on your terms. We do it open in a thread.


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Re: White UK liberals protest Candace Owens for being racist [Re: XUL] * 1
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I counted 6 contradictions, what’d y’all get?


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