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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: Tstone] * 2
    #25867433 -

Gotta say this is a huge waste of LSD. LSD being a partial agonist really doesnt even get any stronger after 2.5mg or so.
If you really want to go deeper than that there are many other full agonist tryptamines and phenethylamines that will blast you infinitely deeper down the rabbit hole.


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD] * 1
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DnDRnD said:
No way hahaha, everything ive read about high doses from trip reports and stuff all say it last a max of 12 hours, even thumbprints (although I debate how true those thumb print reports are) unless your taking another RC or redosing it should only last around 12 hours, the only psychedelic I know that can last even longer is mescaline and i think DOB can last up to 24-48 hours, I know with mescaline you can be high for days at a time with a high enough dose without re dosing




Wait so I'm wrong saying you can trip a little longer with high high doses yet you claim mescaline can make you trip for days


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: trvptamine]
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trvptamine said:
Gotta say this is a huge waste of LSD. LSD being a partial agonist really doesnt even get any stronger after 2.5mg or so.
If you really want to go deeper than that there are many other full agonist tryptamines and phenethylamines that will blast you infinitely deeper down the rabbit hole.




Exactly.

I find it rather funny he could trip way harder and for only 10 minutes on DMT rather than wasting all that acid and time while putting yourself at risk when you have a family.

But noooo he needs to feel like king of the hippies

Still think it's a troll post. He got his wish, he got his posts and views or whatever.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Mescaline is different then LSD, I thought you were talking about high doses of LSD, did you just mean high doses in general?


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD]
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No I meant LSD but i think in general if you do way more of a psych than the average dose, you can stretch it's effects out a little.

1 hit of dmt fades quicker than 3 hits.


8 grams of mushrooms will last longer than 2 grams.

10,000ug LSD will last longer than 120ug.


It's kind of obvious, man


And no, mescaline cannot last more than 24 hours. I did it and it lasted about 15-17. I took 600mg of mescaline HCL


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD]
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Yeah even DOM and DOC generally dont last 24 hours even though people say they can. Ive taken small and large doses of both compounds many times.
Mescaline and DOM are very similar. You definitely would have to redose mescaline to get it to last more than a day.


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD]
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LSD is still a drug with a half-life period. The more you take, the longer it works. That's the same with any drug. Lsd is not special in that case.

Usually, it's 8 to 12 hours, in normal doses. Half a tab works for 8 hours, 2 tabs effects you for 10 hours, 5 tabs for 12h. The more, the longer.

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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD] * 2
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DnDRnD said:
Mescaline is different then LSD, I thought you were talking about high doses of LSD, did you just mean high doses in general?



You just don’t know what you’re talking about.

Have had effects from high doses of lsd up to 16+ hours. Maybe not still tripping balls but definitely still getting visuals

Higher doses = longer effects

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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: mendocino_beano]
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mendocino_beano said:
DnDRnD said:
Mescaline is different then LSD, I thought you were talking about high doses of LSD, did you just mean high doses in general?



You just don’t know what you’re talking about.

Have had effects from high doses of lsd up to 16+ hours. Maybe not still tripping balls but definitely still getting visuals

Higher doses = longer effects



Did you use a test kit to verify that it was LSD? Lsd has a maximum amount of time it last being 12 hours, read any scientific paper on lsd research dude

And I was mistaken it wasn't DOB it's DOI that in tihkal shulgin listed as 14-30 hours, my bad

Mescaline can last for up to I think 2 days going off of when the natives do high dosage ceremonies and take a huge dose of peyote buttons, although I'm not sure if they redose or not


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD] * 1
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Thats not how it works man. Id love to see a scientific paper stating than LSD cant last longer than 12 hours. So source?

LSD can last less or more than 12 hours. Ive definitely still been tripping after the 12 hour point on verified LSD many times. Its different from person to person and there are many variables involved with how long it lasts.

It seems like you havent probably taken any of these substances and seen for yourself. Seems like youre just relying on information than you have read. I could be wrong though.


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: trvptamine]
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I've dosed multiple times and it always last 12 hours, going off of stories of people dosing 10 strips back in the 70's it still only lasted 12 hours, the only time I've heard of it lasting longer is when my buddy ate a microdot and was tripping for 3 days although he's pretty sure it was lsd since it was a different trip, and im getting the timeline from TIHKAL and maps organization handbook on LSD therapy


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD]
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That time-line doesnt say that LSD cant last any longer than 12 hours lol. Its just a guide so people can know what they can expect to happen.

Again Ive eaten 10-20 hits at a time and tripped for more than 12 hours easily. Even 2 hits has had me tripping longer than 12 hours in the past.

This is kind of a ridiculous argument though. You just dont have very much experience with LSD so theres no way I can convince you that it can last longer than 12 hours. If you keep tripping you will eventually see for yourself.


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: trvptamine]
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What makes you say I dont have much experience? I never specified exactly how many times I've dosed lmao, and idk on two hits lasting longer than 12 hours, when I dose two hits it last 12 hours so idk if your getting actual acid or what or if it's mabye an analog like 1p or ald

I think we should be gentleman and agree to disagree though haha we both seem to have opposite view points and I doubt either of us have enough scientific knowledge to explain why it could or couldn't last more than 12 hours


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD] * 2
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But logic implies that a bigger dose lasts longer than a smaller dose. Any drug behaves this way, I don't see why lsd should be special in this way.

Our body needs time to break down substances. The more of a substance is taken, the longer the body needs to fully metabolize the compound.

Each drug has a unique timeframe of effects, though. 8-12 hours is for lsd. That doesn't mean very high doses don't last longer. They do. If it was common to take 25 hits at once, then this timeframe would be changed to 12 to 16 hours or so.
But common doses are 50 to 250 micrograms. With these doses, 12h is the average tripping time.

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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD]
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DnDRnD said:
What makes you say I dont have much experience? I never specified exactly how many times I've dosed lmao, and idk on two hits lasting longer than 12 hours, when I dose two hits it last 12 hours so idk if your getting actual acid or what or if it's mabye an analog like 1p or ald

I think we should be gentleman and agree to disagree though haha we both seem to have opposite view points and I doubt either of us have enough scientific knowledge to explain why it could or couldn't last more than 12 hours



I say you dont have much experience because of what you are saying. Its clear you dont know what youre talking about. Again though. I know theres no way to convince you. You will just have to see for yourself. I know where my LSD came from by the way. Its not hard to verify when you get in from a vendor who is trusted by thousands of people.


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: trvptamine]
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Okay well

A- even if you take extremely high doses it still gets broken down in a decent period of time although yes it does take longer to break down the more you take but lsd had a relatively short half life so it doesn't stay in your system for long

And

B- okay so just because I'm going off experience and scientific papers and anecdotal evidence from people that have hundreds of more trips then I do that means I don't know what im talking about? Let's just be civil and agree to disagree

Edit - unless you use the Ehrlich and hoffman reagent test kits you cant be sure that what your taking is actually LSD unless you get a spectrometry or chromatography analysis


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Edited by DnDRnD (03/11/19 02:54 PM)

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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD]
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I am agreeing to disagree. Thats why im leaving it to you to find out for yourself.
Everyone here is also going off of their own experience as well as scientific reading, and other peoples trip reports. I just think its crazy you could disagree with so many people who also have experience and have seen first hand that LSD can last longer than 12 hours.

EDIT: Ive tested my LSD and also have taken LSD that has been sent in to labs to be tested. There are popular vendors on the darknet that have lots of people taking their blotter and testing it. Again, its not hard to verify you actually have LSD in a time when you can even just look up your particular blotter and see whats in it.


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: trvptamine]
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I'm not saying it's hard to verify but just looking up your blotter art is not a trustworthy way of testing anybody can get a sheet with that art on it and drop whatever they want on to it


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: DnDRnD]
    #25867609 -

Have you never bought directly from the vendors on the darkweb??
You realize there are trusted vendors that thousands of people buy from right?
Thats where most of the good LSD comes from. And its pretty commonly known.
Even just getting it from a trusted vendor that is widely accepted by the community to have the best L is enough. But dont doubt that anytime Ive boughten more than a sheet I test it with reagents.


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Re: Time for annual 10,000ug adventure [Re: trvptamine]
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I've never bought directly off the dark web but yes i understand that there's vendors with thousands of good reviews all I was saying is without reagents you cant know for sure and even reagents can give false positives as well as most people only use the Ehrlich test which cannot positively identify lsd it only identifies that the substance has an indole ring


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