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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: MrMoon]
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MrMoon said:
stzacrack said:
No-one here is a physician, and especially has no authority to make a position, but honestly, isn't this self mutilatuon, dysphoria thing a form of mental illness?

Thinking you're something/someone you're not?

I don't have anger towards mentally ill people,  but I don't want legislation passed protecting the rights of people whobdont deserve them if they are mentally impaired and those rights might culminate in personal injury


Yes it is. It's in the mind. I dint understand why asante is bashing me. I'm just stating it is a form of mental illness

-Dr.Moon


I don't really "feel" anything about the whole thing, in the end the trans shit and the gay shit just doesn't really run thru my head

I seriously just want someone to KNOW and just tell me

Otherwise it's too much for me to believe that whatever nature nurture whatever makes people wanna just be something they're not

Like in my head I'm thinkin wtf? How scared of their real selves must these people be? That shit is so sad it has to be something wrong mentally

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: Enjoywho]
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Enjoywho said:
My gf is trans. I don't personally understand it but it's not really my place to anyway. She's cool though :thumbup:


Is your gf a guy now girl or girl now guy? This make you gay if she was girl but now guy or this make you gay if was guy but now girl.


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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: Dirty Dave] * 1
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Dirty Dave said:
Enjoywho said:
My gf is trans. I don't personally understand it but it's not really my place to anyway. She's cool though :thumbup:


Is your gf a guy now girl or girl now guy? This make you gay if she was girl but now guy or this make you gay if was guy but now girl.


i don't really give a shit bro. :shrug:


only gay one here is your daddy


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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: Enjoywho]
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:lol:

Are you going to make a yo mama joke next?

Not sure why you are so defensive. It was just question. Clearly something is bother you deep down.

Did not mean to offend..


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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: Dirty Dave]
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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: Dirty Dave] * 1
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Dirty Dave said:
:lol:

Are you going to make a yo mama joke next?

Not sure why you are so defensive. It was just question. Clearly something is bother you deep down.-


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Is your gf a guy now girl or girl now guy? This make you gay if she was girl but now guy or this make you gay if was guy but now girl


I find it hard to believe those are serious questions. What I mean is they are not serious questions, but there’s a chance you have framed the issue in your mind in such a ridiculous way that those questions aren’t embarrassing silly. Pretty sure you were just trolling, tho


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (03/10/19 12:22 PM)

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Dirty Dave said:
:lol:

Are you going to make a yo mama joke next?

Not sure why you are so defensive. It was just question. Clearly something is bother you deep down.-


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Is your gf a guy now girl or girl now guy? This make you gay if she was girl but now guy or this make you gay if was guy but now girl


I find it hard to believe those are serious questions. What I mean is they are not serious questions, but there’s a chance you have framed the issue in your mind in such a ridiculous way that those questions aren’t embarrassing silly. Pretty sure you were just trolling, tho


Takes one to know one :guiltyascharged:

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: stzacrack]
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I’m not transgender.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: Dirty Dave]
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There are likely various motivations for becoming transgender. Respectfully speaking, is it possible some people experience a huge amount of disgust and self-loathing about their body and genitals, and feel better and more normal by changing gender? Let's face it, the phenomenon of hating our bodies is a rampant epidemic, and some people, for various reasons, might feel a tidal wave of aversion about the body they were born with.

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down]
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Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
Well I'm transgendered and I like myself, so there.


Now I can’t prove you’re being dishonest here but it feels like you’re saying this more for your benefit than ours.
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
I think traditional gender norms and structures are the most horrible form of oppression.

why?  In my opinion they are there to keep society from breaking down.
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
To look at a persons body and decide based on physical characteristics, every thing about them, with no regard to who they are as an individual is cruel and moronic.

Are you generalizing the population at large?  Sure seems like it.  Isn’t that what you said you don’t like about gender norms but you turned around and did the same thing.
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
You can't tell me how to feel, or think, or dress or act, only I know who I am and what's right for me.

Nobody’s saying you can’t.  But because of your philosophy of gender nonconformity everybody else has to change to fit your world view, that’s where we’re in disagreement.
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
I understand that sex is a biological concept, based on a number of characteristics, but many of those can be overcome, and are worth overcoming if you feel that's what's right for you.

No thanks
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
Gender is a fake concept in general, used to divide and control people.

The term ‘gender’ used to be synonymous with biological sex, but because some feminists(who want to divide and control people) wrote some books changing the meaning, it’s now a social construct.
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
I grew up being told how to look, what thoughts I'm allowed to have, what feelings I'm allowed to have, what I'm allowed to call myself. I won't ever forget or forgive any of it.


I thought everybody had parents.
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
Our traditional gender norms and structures are not present in many cultures, they are not natural, they are the byproduct of monotheistic religion which is a fucking cancer on this planet that deserves no quarter.

.  Yes.  Other cultures norms are different than ours.  There’s a group in New Guinea that thinks that male children don’t have their own semen so they have the children perform fellatio on their adult males.  What a great cultural norm.  It’s because of Christianity that we don’t have backwards pagen rituals like that anymore.
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
People's hatred of trans identities comes from the same place as racism. You want to be able to look at people and draw conclusions about them, dictate their identity to them, rank them, asign them value.

There’s assholes in all walks of society.
Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
You want the world to be simple, black and white, and easy to understand. That's not reality at all. There are extreme variations between different people, places, and situations in the world. Complexity is at the heart of everything.


Maybe you should take your own advice.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: lowbrow]
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Yes.  Other cultures norms are different than ours.  There’s a group in New Guinea that thinks that male children don’t have their own semen so they have the children perform fellatio on their adult males.  What a great cultural norm.  It’s because of Christianity that we don’t have backwards pagen rituals like that anymore.


Ever been to a catholic mass? The ritualized canibalism and vampirism is pretty fucking weird.

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The term ‘gender’ used to be synonymous with biological sex, but because some feminists(who want to divide and control people) wrote some books changing the meaning, it’s now a social construct.


Gender has never meant exactly the same thing as biological sex. In psychology, it has always had the connotation of the subjective experience of being male or female. As is common in English, we have a pair of words that are similar but not exactly the same. The word “sex” which is Anglo-Saxon and “gender” of French origin. “Sex” is to “Gender” as “Cow” is to “Beef”  Or “Belief” is to “Faith” or “Woods” is to “forest”

Very similar meanings but with subtle differences,  where the Anglo Saxon word is more clinical and objective.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: Calm_A_Llama_Down]
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Calm_A_Llama_Down said:
Dirty Dave said:
I do have 1 issue.

The bathrooms.

If your  birth certificate says Male than use Male bathroom or vice versa.

Let's say guy gets surgery and is now girl. This new girl still like girls. Now you have guy as girl in girl bathroom pervin out.


What about lesbians?

People who want to commit rape in a bathroom are not going to care about a sign on a door.

I use the mens bathroom because I don't want to make other women uncomfortable, and I have been shoved, photographed, screamed at, laughed at and threatened.

I don't blame trans people for using the bathroom that makes them feel safe. I don't even blame a cis male for using the womens room if it's there only option. Releaving yourself is a human right and no one should ever shit their pants because of a sign on a door.


Cis male is a term that was recently invented by feminists to try and emasculate men.  We can already guarantee certain circles are calling straight people ‘cissys’.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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How does the prefix cis emasculate men? It describes manly men. Men whose gender matches their sex organs.

What emasculates you is your fragile masculinity.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: koods]
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Cis male sounds like i have some kind of skin disorder :lol:

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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what about cishet


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And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Cis means “on the same side”. Trans means “on the opposite side.”  The nomenclature is borrowed from chemistry.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
Yes.  Other cultures norms are different than ours.  There’s a group in New Guinea that thinks that male children don’t have their own semen so they have the children perform fellatio on their adult males.  What a great cultural norm.  It’s because of Christianity that we don’t have backwards pagen rituals like that anymore.


Ever been to a catholic mass? The ritualized canibalism and vampirism is pretty fucking weird.


No comparison what so ever.

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The term ‘gender’ used to be synonymous with biological sex, but because some feminists(who want to divide and control people) wrote some books changing the meaning, it’s now a social construct.


Gender has never meant exactly the same thing as biological sex. In psychology, it has always had the connotation of the subjective experience of being male or female. As is common in English, we have a pair of words that are similar but not exactly the same. The word “sex” which is Anglo-Saxon and “gender” of French origin. “Sex” is to “Gender” as “Cow” is to “Beef”  Or “Belief” is to “Faith” or “Woods” is to “forest”

Very similar meanings but with subtle differences,  where the Anglo Saxon word is more clinical and objective.



“In the last two decades of the 20th century, the use of gender in academia has increased greatly, outnumbering uses of sex in the social sciences. While the spread of the word in science publications can be attributed to the influence of feminism, its use as a synonym for sex is attributed to the failure to grasp the distinction made in feminist theory, and the distinction has sometimes become blurred with the theory itself; David Haig stated, "Among the reasons that working scientists have given me for choosing gender rather than sex in biological contexts are desires to signal sympathy with feminist goals, to use a more academic term, or to avoid the connotation of copulation."[2]”

Sounds like it was used interchangeably until the femminazis changed it.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
How does the prefix cis emasculate men? It describes manly men. Men whose gender matches their sex organs.

What emasculates you is your fragile masculinity.


Cis is the same pronunciation as sis.  And it’s no coincidence that the people that latched onto it were man hating lesbian feminists.  Now they can call all straight people ‘sissys’ and get away with it because it’s ‘academic’.
Masculinity is not fragile by nature.  It’s what runs the world.  Soon as you start messing around with this norm, society collapses.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Cis means “on the same side”. Trans means “on the opposite side.”  The nomenclature is borrowed from chemistry.


Interesting. Latin roots Im guessing?

Cisfibrosis?

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Re: How do you feel about transgenders and sex change? [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
How does the prefix cis emasculate men? ...


It denies that manly men are a normal thing and that trans people are weird
and instead makes it sound like freakish trannies are as normal as normies
so if effeminate men who wish they were women are as normal as normies, then all men must be effeminate on some level

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