Asante said:

How I feel about transgender people is of no importance. I'm Cis, they are Trans, its on their plate, what matters is how THEY feel, not I.

What they feel is gender dysphoria and beig haunted by bigoted Cis people saying they should get real.

Thing is, "real" for them is the gender they feel inside which is not reflected by the outward appearance of their body. It pains them. What also pains them is the outside world being troglodytes about it.

Make all bathrooms for everyone, like the home bathroom, if there are creeps who can't handle that because of acting out against people of a gender they fancy (or dont fancy) then deal with. Half a century after ending racial bathroom segregation, end gender bathroom segregation.

They have the right to be as they are and behave and dress how they feel they must.

My approval for that isnt any more required for that as it is required for a woman to be allowed to wear pants.

De-troglodyte ourselves.

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Dirty Dave said:

A height is just want. It does not change who I am.

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Dirty Dave said:

No it doesnt

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MrMoon said:

Transgender is a mental illness

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Mental illness? OH Dr. Moon thanks God you’re here to give your fuckin prognosis

Aren’t you wanted in the ER?

MrMoon said:

Transgender is a mental illness

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Calm_A_Llama_Down said:

You keep going back to biological features. It's ok for you to be 5'11, it's not ok for your parents and society to tell you that because you're 5'11 you're not allowed to feel and think certain things, or love certain people, or Express yourself certain ways. Tell you you can be a soldier or a factory worker, but not a homemaker or child care specialist, or an exotic dancer.

When you look at features of a person's body and then make their decisions based on that without regard for them that is a huge overreach into the life of an individual. Gender norms are a huge overreach.

I spent time when I was young trying to be a man and do the things men do and "fit in". All the worst things I ever did were because I wanted to belong, didn't want to be suspected. I spent time in male exclusive environments that made me wish for death. I don't deserve to have to live like that. I deserve to like who I am, and how I look, I deserve the right to my own identity.

Calling someone mentally ill does not give you the right to dominate or torture them. You dont get to use your shitty little labels and obsession with tradition to drag me around like a dog on a leash.

People who keep using the word mutation in here are just bigoted. Plastic surgery is not mutilation. Liposuction, tummy tucks, face lifts, penis enlargement, breast implants. No one is attacking theses things, because they don't challenge the traditionalist gender structures put forth by the rotting christ religion. The fake concern for mental health, the disdain, disguised as a concern for "logic". It's all just a transparent series of excuses to force the values of your religion onto my body at gun point.

I don't really want to argue with you dave. I actually think you're one of the cooler people on here, and there's nothing you could say that will change who I am anyway. I've been abandoned by family members, punished in school, harrassed in public, and fired from jobs because I don't conform to society's ignorance. I'm alive, proud of myself, productive, and happy. I don't need other people to agree with me.

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Maybe I do not fully understand then and what i do not understand, i hate!



Well I guess I take step back and will sit with my original statement. The whole trans movement does not bother me.

I also get the bathroom comments as well, sort of. I am on fence.

I do want to add one thing which I stand firmly behind. Transgender and surgeries and the whole 9 yard should not be shoved down childrens throat. They have a hard enough time understanding the world around them.

Let kids be kids and allow them to figure out who they are first. Once they are older and decide they want to grow a penis, cool, but until then... leave em be.

And I am not saying every queenie with a winnie does this, but transgender is EVERYWHERE including childrens books.

Dirty Dave said:

transgender is EVERYWHERE including childrens books.

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Dirty Dave said:

Calm_A_Llama_Down said:

You keep going back to biological features. It's ok for you to be 5'11, it's not ok for your parents and society to tell you that because you're 5'11 you're not allowed to feel and think certain things, or love certain people, or Express yourself certain ways. Tell you you can be a soldier or a factory worker, but not a homemaker or child care specialist, or an exotic dancer.

When you look at features of a person's body and then make their decisions based on that without regard for them that is a huge overreach into the life of an individual. Gender norms are a huge overreach.

I spent time when I was young trying to be a man and do the things men do and "fit in". All the worst things I ever did were because I wanted to belong, didn't want to be suspected. I spent time in male exclusive environments that made me wish for death. I don't deserve to have to live like that. I deserve to like who I am, and how I look, I deserve the right to my own identity.

Calling someone mentally ill does not give you the right to dominate or torture them. You dont get to use your shitty little labels and obsession with tradition to drag me around like a dog on a leash.

People who keep using the word mutation in here are just bigoted. Plastic surgery is not mutilation. Liposuction, tummy tucks, face lifts, penis enlargement, breast implants. No one is attacking theses things, because they don't challenge the traditionalist gender structures put forth by the rotting christ religion. The fake concern for mental health, the disdain, disguised as a concern for "logic". It's all just a transparent series of excuses to force the values of your religion onto my body at gun point.

I don't really want to argue with you dave. I actually think you're one of the cooler people on here, and there's nothing you could say that will change who I am anyway. I've been abandoned by family members, punished in school, harrassed in public, and fired from jobs because I don't conform to society's ignorance. I'm alive, proud of myself, productive, and happy. I don't need other people to agree with me.

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Maybe I do not fully understand then and what i do not understand, i hate!



Well I guess I take step back and will sit with my original statement. The whole trans movement does not bother me.

I also get the bathroom comments as well, sort of. I am on fence.

I do want to add one thing which I stand firmly behind. Transgender and surgeries and the whole 9 yard should not be shoved down childrens throat. They have a hard enough time understanding the world around them.

Let kids be kids and allow them to figure out who they are first. Once they are older and decide they want to grow a penis, cool, but until then... leave em be.

And I am not saying every queenie with a winnie does this, but transgender is EVERYWHERE including childrens books.

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