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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: PocketLady]
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Erm... evil cult, how is it harmful?

Not that hard to discern.


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"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: life is good]
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1) power of the sake of power,

2) exploitative,

3) false information about every other path (saying they are all perverted)

4) secretative

5) illogical


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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: life is good]
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Simultaneously:

1) insults other teachings (Saying are perverted)

2) Steals from them, (saying these are ours)

3) illogically says that "ours" is the correct interpretation.




So.

Yeah.

Harmful.


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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: life is good]
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Tremendously, beyond harmful as it is basically, the definition of pure evil.

-- Power for the sake of power.


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"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: life is good] * 1
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Look, this thread is completely derailed now. I didn't want this to be about the school per se. I wanted to intelligently discuss the issue of paying for spiritual teachings and explain my perspective.

But, all of your claims, you are making them without really saying anything to back them up. It's basically slander and I can't really respond when you don't present any real evidence. Like supposedly saying other teachings are perverted - completely untrue. Show me where it says this?

You seem to be confusing your own opinion with fact.


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Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity.
The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
The heart that is not in love will fail the test.
~ Rumi


The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir

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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: PocketLady]
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The teachings you are saying should be free, were stolen from other traditions. And yes your site does say that others are perverted. Yet somehow your version is more correct.

Should they be free? They already were free. Then they were stolen, now they're being sold.

It's beyond absurd to the point of unbelievability, and presented as genuine.


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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: life is good]
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Show me the quote where it says "perverted"? Or just send me a link to the page.


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Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity.
The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
The heart that is not in love will fail the test.
~ Rumi


The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir

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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: PocketLady]
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No...

I listened to that once, that was more than enough.


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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: life is good]
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Evil is evil, PocketLady.

You've expressed the underlying tension behind these in the first place. 

needing power, occult teachers fell into the "Power for the sake of power" trap, and so they searched it and such; but forever there is the sliding-ness of the powerlessness from the beginning.

How can it be any other way -- powerlessness against the current system.


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"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: PocketLady] * 1
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Well, even if you don't have the evidence that's okay. I understand the fear surrounding spiritual teachings and traditions as unfortunately there has been so much corruption and ego-driven motives in religion and spirituality in the past. It's completely understandable.

"You will know them by their fruits."

I know a bunch of genuinely loving and compassionate people continually working on themselves and growing and evolving. People who forgive at the drop of a hat, who work on themselves instead of judging others, who are attempting to rid themselves of selfishness, and on being giving and self-less at all costs. There is no better evidence :heart:


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Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity.
The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
The heart that is not in love will fail the test.
~ Rumi


The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir

Edited by PocketLady (02/23/19 05:25 PM)

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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: PocketLady]
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it literally says the others are perverted.

Steals their teachings.

Sells it.

"Pay us money."

"Join our family."


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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: life is good] * 1
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life is good said:
Evil is evil, PocketLady.




life is good said:
Erm... evil cult, how is it harmful?



First you ask me not to post on your threads, which I respect, but all you’ve done before and after on my threads however is tell me how my spiritual tradition is “evil” and is a cult. Then you accuse my tradition of speaking against other spiritual traditions. Oh the irony :lol:

You do realise you are breaking the forum rules, right?

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Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity.
The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
The heart that is not in love will fail the test.
~ Rumi


The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir

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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: life is good]
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Let's be respectful, with all due respect.


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Re: Should spiritual teachings be free? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
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NOTHING is free.

If you take an energy, either because you are given or you extract it, you are at a debt to reimburse.

The world is packed to the brim with freeloaders, and in fact this is the current societal business model. Rape mother nature and sell the offspring for their meat.



If you ewant to approach a spiritual teacher with the intent to take without giving, you didn't "get it". You should want to reciprocate without asking.


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