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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Vocations,desires,income.
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This may have no impact on the older crowd. Although the philosophy impacts everyone.
If you’re older is there anything you would do differently?
What do you desire? What makes you itch? What sort of a situation would you like?
So I always ask the question, "what would you like to do if money were no object? How would you really enjoy spending your life?"
Well, it’s so amazing as a result of our kind of educational system, crowds of students say well, we’d like to be painters, we’d like to be poets, we’d like to be writers, but as everybody knows you can’t earn any money that way. When we finally got down to something, which the individual says he really wants to do, I will say to him, you do that and forget the money, because, if you say that getting the money is the most important thing, you will spend your life completely wasting your time. Better to have a short life that
is full of what you like doing than a long life spent in a miserable way. And after all, if you do really like what you’re doing, it doesn’t matter what it is, you can eventually turn it – you could eventually become a master of it.
And then you’ll be able to get a good fee for whatever it is.  But it’s absolutely stupid to spend your time doing things you don’t like, in order to go on spending things you don’t like, doing things you don’t like and to teach our children to follow in the same track. See what we are doing, is we’re bringing up children and educating to live the same sort of lifes we are living. In order that they may justify themselves and find satisfaction in life by bringing up their children to bring up their children to do the same thing, so it’s all retch and no vomit. It never gets there. And so, therefore, it’s so important to consider this question: What do I desire?
-Alan Watts


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Learning is the paramount delectation, & tribulation in life.

Edited by Astonish (02/12/19 04:29 AM)

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I was pessimistic in my youth. Now I can just follow the Toronto Raptors.

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Re: Vocations,desires,income. [Re: Ole Field Trashe]
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Ahab McBathsalts said:




I forgot to add Alan Watts to the end.
But he is one of my favorites next to Terrence.


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Re: Vocations,desires,income. [Re: Astonish]
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I spent the first part of my life living fast and stoking my ego chasing money and pleasure.

Now there are 2 things I want in a job: mentally demanding, and focused on actually helping people.

I need something demanding for my own self growth. Working an easy job lets me justify slipping back into old ways.

I want something to help people because that's what I enjoy and get the most satisfaction from.

I'm pretty well on schedule to get where I want to be. Even if money was irrelevant, I'd be doing something pretty similair with my time.

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Re: Vocations,desires,income. [Re: feevers]
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The OP is right and maybe someone will learn from my mistake.

I didn't find my passion until I was 20 years old when I picked up the guitar. I didn't see it as a viable career choice so I decided to continue my education and get an engineering degree. I chose this major completely on a whim. In high school I went to college half days and just picked a subject randomly. Electronics.... That's sounds good I can get into that I thought. Well I worked hard and got the degree in electrical engineering. I got a job as an engineer but I stupidly just took the first opportunity I had which was a job as a quality engineer. Now I'm 8 years into quality engineer jobs and I fucking hate it. I could not give a shit less about my job.

All the while, I was not practicing enough due to college and jobs and now I'm just a shitty guitar player and a shitty engineer. What am I supposed to do now? I have a house and a wife and possibly having kids soon. I couldn't go on tour with a band even if I wanted to.

Does everyone hate their job this much? Am I supposed to just live this life and be thankful that I can afford some nice things? I guess that's what I'm doing. I guess I should just stop complaining because I have a decent job and life. It's more than most people have. But damn I feel like my life is pointless.


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Astonish said:
This may have no impact on the older crowd. Although the philosophy impacts everyone.
If you’re older is there anything you would do differently?
What do you desire? What makes you itch? What sort of a situation would you like?
So I always ask the question, "what would you like to do if money were no object? How would you really enjoy spending your life?"
Well, it’s so amazing as a result of our kind of educational system, crowds of students say well, we’d like to be painters, we’d like to be poets, we’d like to be writers, but as everybody knows you can’t earn any money that way. When we finally got down to something, which the individual says he really wants to do, I will say to him, you do that and forget the money, because, if you say that getting the money is the most important thing, you will spend your life completely wasting your time. Better to have a short life that
is full of what you like doing than a long life spent in a miserable way. And after all, if you do really like what you’re doing, it doesn’t matter what it is, you can eventually turn it – you could eventually become a master of it.
And then you’ll be able to get a good fee for whatever it is.  But it’s absolutely stupid to spend your time doing things you don’t like, in order to go on spending things you don’t like, doing things you don’t like and to teach our children to follow in the same track. See what we are doing, is we’re bringing up children and educating to live the same sort of lifes we are living. In order that they may justify themselves and find satisfaction in life by bringing up their children to bring up their children to do the same thing, so it’s all retch and no vomit. It never gets there. And so, therefore, it’s so important to consider this question: What do I desire?
-Alan Watts




It's best to find a happy medium. You have to work to afford food and shelter. Poems and paintings aren't going to give you any food or health care when you're sick. You WANT to paint, you NEED to work.

I like painting art so so I just paint art until I lose my house and starve to death? I would rather go to work.
That quote doesn't make any sense unless he goes on to tell you how make money by selling poems?

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