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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: laska]
    #6769466 - 04/10/07 10:32 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Did I bitch about you not cutting your kid? Then don't bitch about me cutting mine.




this is the whole point, do you even realise what you just said? you are going to cut your kid on the pee pee


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #6769467 - 04/10/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

African docs are supporting it--cuts the AIDS transmission rate down by over 50%.  Plus, it does look better, aesthetically. 

And babies can't even see straight for a few months--like the trauma of birth is going to scar them less than getting cut?  Bullshit. 

And yes, I'm cut.  :derfase:


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #6769469 - 04/10/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

And I don't think I was at all preachy in this thread (correct me if I'm wrong..) .. and don't recall telling anyone what to do to their children. Just posing the general question.. would you.. and why... and stating my opinion on how fucked up I think the practice is.


But to me this points to a much deeper issue in our society... several issues in fact.
One being the "ownership" of children. The way people treat them like possessions, instead of human beings.
And I think that somehow, somewhere.. circumcision is related to sexual abuse.
Plus I just think it's plain wrong. I don't go around cutting people, especially near their dicks.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6769478 - 04/10/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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I wasn't preachy. In fact no one here was...from what I've seen. Granted I didn't read every post. But I really didn't see anything too bad.
I think you're just pissed that you're out of things to say.

I think it's a stupid practice. I'm allowed to have that opinion. No one came down on you, or persecuted you. Calm down.

Hey can I cut a small section off the top of your thumb? or can I clip the tip of you nose, or your ears? Or course not. That would be ridiculous.




No, I'm not worked up. Swearing does not indicate me being worked up if that's why you thought I was. Maybe preachy wasn't the right word. But there's clearly a strong divide when I don't think there should be. Yes I'm out of things to say, because I've already said all my points, and I think they're fucking good enough.

If it was socially acceptable/looked normal, yes, yes you could cut a tip of my thumb, or my nose, or my ears. Wanna get your ears pierced? Or a tattoo? Or branded? Or scarification?

It's fine that you think it's a stupid practice, don't cut your kids dick. But you can't deny the fact that you're trying to convince other people in here to not cut their kids dick too. If they want to, that's fine, if they don't, that's fine. Like I said last time I think this is getting blown way out of proportion. No child is going to remember the event, and every kid is gonna be happy with their unit unless it's fucking tiny.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #6769481 - 04/10/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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people are getting far too worked up over this. it isn't a big deal. it really isn't. matter of preference. i like my cut dick, my kid'll get one, he won't remember it, all will be well.

this bullshit about PTSD and death from circumcision trauma is literally like 1 in a 100 million. You have like 4 cases spanning over a decade. Do you realize how many kids have been cut in that time period?

like i said, i respect your opinion. you don't like circumcisions? great! don't get your kid cut. but don't try to get all pissy fucking tell me what to do in regards to a harmless (yes, harmless - i don't consider the whole lost sensitivity to be harmful) choice dependent on parental preference.

and for christ's sake, all these incredibly negative terms like "mutilation" are a bit much. it's a fucking snip of the foreskin, not like the removal of the entire head.




totally agree.

There are far more traumatic things that happen to kids anyway. I would work to prevent those, but this - if you have the right Dr. the kid will never remember it. No guys in my family do. If anything they'll have problems with it later if they don't, many girls are unforgiving of an uncircumcised dick.

But again it's my personal opinion and i don't think having extra for-skin would affect your personal life that much/if at all. I really wouldn't know about it - sexually.
I've just heard girls talking is all...
Some like it better, some don't. I dont have that experience to tell.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Shroomism]
    #6769484 - 04/10/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I would like to see some figures proving being cut protects you from aids by any percent.

You should just wear a condom anyway.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6769486 - 04/10/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

dont start flaming in here again, STEIN!

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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: JunkFood]
    #6769493 - 04/10/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

the point of doing it in infancy is so that the guy doesn't have to remember it. obviously it'll hurt, so you do it at an age where they won't remember the pain.

so far as the term mutilate, i don't care about the precise definition, i'm referring to the connotation it holds in today's language. it's just too harsh of a term to describe it. the word "mutilate" triggers thoughts of malicious intent, torture, et cetera.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Artnotwar]
    #6769496 - 04/10/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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intense_cutn said:
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Did I bitch about you not cutting your kid? Then don't bitch about me cutting mine.







I think people who get their kids circumsized are wrong, here, because you're forcing something upon your child (he may like it and he may not, when he gets older) whereas the people who DON'T get their kids circumsized just aren't doing anything. So, I don't see anything wrong with bitching at someone who forces a decision upon another.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #6769503 - 04/10/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

:wtf:
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but don't try to get all pissy fucking tell me what to do



I hope you aren't talking to me. I'm just sharing my opinion. For most of this thread I was speaking to people in general. Not to anyone specifically.
I can call it barbaric and stupid all I want. Don't take that to mean barbaric like the way killing someone can be done barbarically...
Think of it as
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Marked by crudeness or lack of restraint in taste, style, or manner.



:yesnod:

Anyway, I've had enough penis cutting hubris for one day. God it feels good to know my parents made what is IMO the right choice.
I'm glad they didn't honor an outdated tradition with no basis in science that would adversely affect my sex life and diminish my pleasure. :grin:


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6769504 - 04/10/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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I would like to see some figures proving being cut protects you from aids by any percent.

You should just wear a condom anyway.




http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=circumcision+%2B+aids&spell=1


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Rono]
    #6769510 - 04/10/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Rono said:
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Hank, FTW said:
I would like to see some figures proving being cut protects you from aids by any percent.

You should just wear a condom anyway.




http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=circumcision+%2B+aids&spell=1




Yeah and cutting off breasts probably prevents breast cancer :rolleyes:


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6769513 - 04/10/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Hank, FTW said:
I would like to see some figures proving being cut protects you from aids by any percent.

You should just wear a condom anyway.




I've looked for it.. there's no hard evidence on it. It's all propaganda from major media outlets.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/briefs/hiv_aids/hb050120d.htm


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6769516 - 04/10/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

psilo, i wasn't referring to you, or even to you shroomism, when i said "don't get all fucking pissy telling me what to do." it was particularly someone else's posts that rubbed me the wrong way, but it doesn't matter.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: JunkFood]
    #6769518 - 04/10/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You, too, are forcing something on your kid. There is the choice: Whether to be cut or uncut. Then the parent decides. Not to sound too philosophical or something, but lack of action is still action.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #6769524 - 04/10/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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You should just wear a condom anyway.




If only most of Africa had it that easy.


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: jewunit]
    #6769525 - 04/10/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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No child is going to remember the event, and every kid is gonna be happy with their unit unless it's fucking tiny.





No...... fucking..... way. :noway:

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I like the look and feel of my clean, manly circumcised penis.




Of course you do. What choice to do have. There's no going back. :lol:

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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6769527 - 04/10/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Anyway, I've had enough penis cutting hubris for one day. God it feels good to know my parents made what is IMO the right choice.
I'm glad they didn't honor an outdated tradition with no basis in science that would adversely affect my sex life and diminish my pleasure. :grin:




Yeah, not being preachy at all :rolleyes:


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: jewunit]
    #6769528 - 04/10/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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You, too, are forcing something on your kid. There is the choice: Whether to be cut or uncut. Then the parent decides. Not to sound too philosophical or something, but lack of action is still action.




NOT getting soemone circumsized isn't forcing jackshit on your kid. The only thing it's forcing upon your kid is: not being able to be circumsized at infancy.

Talk about twisted logic...


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Re: Circumcision - would you do this to your children? [Re: Shroomism]
    #6769529 - 04/10/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

:lol:

How do you figure that's propaganda? Just because it doesn't agree with your point doesn't make it propaganda. I'd be happy to have you point out to me which parts of that study are unsound. I'm not saying it's a perfect observational study, but to dismiss it like that is absurd.

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