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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
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functioned by granting them citizenship. Prior to 1965 there wasn't even a quota on immigrants entering from south of the border. Immigration was not even a public issue until 2001 as a response to the war on terror.


Those folks that came to America by the boatload in the 1800s and 1900s didn’t have visas. They just came and were let in and conservatives love to romanticize those immigrants.


Yes, but those were European immigrants and those people were welcomed by the US government and had jobs already waiting in many cases.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000] * 1
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krypto2000 said:
Some people are too stupid to see that.


This is why liberal Democrats lose.

They literally can't stop with the Hilary tactic of maliciously demeaning your opponents. Calling them deplorable and too stupid to vote correctly.

It didn't work out for Clinton. I wonder if it will work out for you?


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TRUMP 2020

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: sh4d0ws]
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sh4d0ws said:
qman said:
krypto2000 said:
Anxhor babies are not illegal, how hard is that to grasp? Just because you don't like something doesn't make it illegal. Do you guys care to debate the topic here thst you brought up or are you going to keep errecting new goal posts and hope we don't notice?


Where do anchor babies come from in the first place?



America. You can play semantics but if they are born in USA...they are from America in the first place.


Then why did every other Western nation did rid of anchor baby status the past 30 years?  Because it's constantly abused and it doesn't benefit the native population.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Right, until the late 1800's or early 1900's there was no such thing as an illegal immigrant. The current "illegsl immigrant" problem is just playing on peoples fear, hatred, and ignorance of "others." Some people are too stupid to see that.


No, resources are limited and bringing in more poor people doesn't help the tens of millions of US citizens already in poverty.

Just wait until the economy breaks, there won't be a pro-immigration liberal to be found. Look at the EU today, they're already moving into survival mode in the political world.

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Rfor mom and pop size places to national chains, they are all undocumented. you se: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Immigration was not even a public issue until 2001 as a response to the war on terror.


I agree with you with regard to much of this issue.  This statement, however, is factually inaccurate.  Immigration has been a contentious issue for as long as I can remember, which, admittedly, is only back to about 1987 or so.  Still, I remember prop 187 in California, as an example.  I don't remember the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, But i do remember folks talking about the "reagan amnesty" in the decades following.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman]
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Did you even read that Wikipedia article? The issue was not in the US, it was that Mexico did not want their citizens to emmigrate because they were a valued resource; the US public had no issue with them.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
koods said:
Quote:
functioned by granting them citizenship. Prior to 1965 there wasn't even a quota on immigrants entering from south of the border. Immigration was not even a public issue until 2001 as a response to the war on terror.


Those folks that came to America by the boatload in the 1800s and 1900s didn’t have visas. They just came and were let in and conservatives love to romanticize those immigrants.


Yes, but those were European immigrants and those people were welcomed by the US government and had jobs already waiting in many cases.


Please stop speaking on things you clearly have no knowledge of. Plenty of mexicans came over here as well, it was by no means only euopeans.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
krypto2000 said:
Some people are too stupid to see that.


This is why liberal Democrats lose.

They literally can't stop with the Hilary tactic of maliciously demeaning your opponents. Calling them deplorable and too stupid to vote correctly.

It didn't work out for Clinton. I wonder if it will work out for you?


I'm not running for office, just making observations and pointing out the facts.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Did you even read that Wikipedia article? The issue was not in the US, it was that Mexico did not want their citizens to emmigrate because they were a valued resource; the US public had no issue with them.


Where in the article does it mention that the us public had no issue with them?

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: MagicMush123]
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It says numerous times that it was done because of the Mexican governments request and no where did I see mention of the US populace having an issue with it. What reason do you think they did? A lack of evidence is not an evidence of lack.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
It says numerous times that it was done because of the Mexican governments request and no where did I see mention of the US populace having an issue with it. What reason do you think they did? A lack of evidence is not an evidence of lack.


Oh, so you offered your opinion. Okay

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: qman]
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qman said:
koods said:
Quote:
functioned by granting them citizenship. Prior to 1965 there wasn't even a quota on immigrants entering from south of the border. Immigration was not even a public issue until 2001 as a response to the war on terror.


Those folks that came to America by the boatload in the 1800s and 1900s didn’t have visas. They just came and were let in and conservatives love to romanticize those immigrants.


Yes, but those were European immigrants and those people were welcomed by the US government and had jobs already waiting in many cases.


Totally false. They came with a couple bucks and a relative’s address


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
krypto2000 said:
It says numerous times that it was done because of the Mexican governments request and no where did I see mention of the US populace having an issue with it. What reason do you think they did? A lack of evidence is not an evidence of lack.


Oh, so you offered your opinion. Okay


Okay, so what reason dk you have to think it was a popular issue within the US? I tend to not form beliefs without a cause to do so, but that's just me.

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Re: Rfor mom and pop size places to national chains, they are all undocumented. you se: BUILD THE WALL [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
krypto2000 said:
Immigration was not even a public issue until 2001 as a response to the war on terror.


I agree with you with regard to much of this issue.  This statement, however, is factually inaccurate.  Immigration has been a contentious issue for as long as I can remember, which, admittedly, is only back to about 1987 or so.  Still, I remember prop 187 in California, as an example.  I don't remember the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, But i do remember folks talking about the "reagan amnesty" in the decades following.


:cookiemonster:


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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
MagicMush123 said:
krypto2000 said:
It says numerous times that it was done because of the Mexican governments request and no where did I see mention of the US populace having an issue with it. What reason do you think they did? A lack of evidence is not an evidence of lack.


Oh, so you offered your opinion. Okay


Okay, so what reason dk you have to think it was a popular issue within the US? I tend to not form beliefs without a cause to do so, but that's just me.


What caused you to believe that illegal immigration wasn't an issue until 2001 then?


I dont. I haven't said anything about Mexican immigration yet. Its obviously contentious issue now. Usually when a problem starts out its small and goes unnoticed,  and eventually gets bigger and bigger until its too big to ignore

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: XUL] * 2
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XUL said:
In comparison to the 63% of non-citizen households that used at least one welfare program, 35% of native-headed households accessed at least one welfare program. 45% of non-citizen households used food programs; 21% of native households used them. 50% of non-citizen households used Medicaid as opposed to 23% of native households.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailywire.com/news/38996/study-63-non-citizen-households-2014-used-welfare-hank-berrien%3famp



You never disproved that study.


It was explained in your thread on that very topic:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
First, your numbers include legal immigrants.  The Center for Immigration Studies loves to pull that trick to rally people against illegal immigrants.  Qman falls for it every time.

Second, illegals don't qualify for welfare.  They get schooling, but that's about it.

Third, discounted school lunch is considered welfare.  Who really cares about that?



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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: MagicMush123]
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ballsalsa said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act


We're talking about mexicans/south of the border immigration. I believe I specified as much for thst reason, it should be common knowledge we were racist against the asians in the early 20th century.

MagicMush123 said:
krypto2000 said:
MagicMush123 said:
krypto2000 said:
It says numerous times that it was done because of the Mexican governments request and no where did I see mention of the US populace having an issue with it. What reason do you think they did? A lack of evidence is not an evidence of lack.


Oh, so you offered your opinion. Okay


Okay, so what reason dk you have to think it was a popular issue within the US? I tend to not form beliefs without a cause to do so, but that's just me.


What caused you to believe that illegal immigration wasn't an issue until 2001 then?


I dont. I haven't said anything about Mexican immigration yet. Its obviously contentious issue now. Usually when a problem starts out its small and goes unnoticed,  and eventually gets bigger and bigger until its too big to ignore


Of course, that's why I said popular. Immigration has "been an issue" since the colonials arrived, it was not regarded as a national issue until after 2001 when terrorists and "others" were pointed to as scape goats to distract us from the mismanagement upstairs.

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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No, you specified that there were no quotas on mexican immigrarion until the 60's and yhen said yhat immigration was not a national issue until 2001.  You were wrong, even though your heart is in the right place.  I already used the 86 ammesty bill as an example, i didn't even need the Chinese exclusion act to make my point

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Re: BUILD THE WALL [Re: krypto2000]
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said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act


We're talking about mexicans/south of the border immigration. I believe I specified as much for thst reason, it should be common knowledge we were racist against the asians in the early 20th century.

MagicMush123 said:
krypto2000 said:
MagicMush123 said:
krypto2000 said:
It says numerous times that it was done because of the Mexican governments request and no where did I see mention of the US populace having an issue with it. What reason do you think they did? A lack of evidence is not an evidence of lack.


Oh, so you offered your opinion. Okay


Okay, so what reason dk you have to think it was a popular issue within the US? I tend to not form beliefs without a cause to do so, but that's just me.


What caused you to believe that illegal immigration wasn't an issue until 2001 then?


I dont. I haven't said anything about Mexican immigration yet. Its obviously contentious issue now. Usually when a problem starts out its small and goes unnoticed,  and eventually gets bigger and bigger until its too big to ignore


Of course, that's why I said popular. Immigration has "been an issue" since the colonials arrived, it was not regarded as a national issue until after 2001 when terrorists and "others" were pointed to as scape goats to distract us from the mismanagement upstairs.


Colonialists weren't immigrants and the United states has had a long racist history with Mexico. Mexican immigration to the states legal or illegal has been a hot topic for at least half a century

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