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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: XUL] * 3
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XUL said:
It's not my responsibility to pay for other people's health care -- especially considering bad habits and pro-fat culture. If I decided to smoke weed, eat like shit, smoke or cigarettes, then I deserve an increased chance of death. I'm not paying for people's shitty mistakes and I don't want anyone paying for me.

"They aren't democrat positions."

Yes they are -- as they are being streamlined by lead democrat senators.

Are you trying to win me over?


If you have any sort of health insurance then, yes, you are paying for other people's poor lifestyle decisions, and they will someday pay for yours. That's how insurance works. Thousands of people put money into a communal pot, which is drawn from by those who need it, when they need it. That's how it is an affordable way to manage unforeseen healthcare expenses.

Having the government control the pool takes private company profits out of the equation, so costs can be reduced. Governments can also bargain for better prices on drugs. The benefits really are incredible.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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You are right.

I just don't believe in being forced to do it.


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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I've debated others on this, and the most common reason people give is that they don't want to be forced to pay for something we know they'll probably need someday; they'd rather freeload off responsible adults who pay extra to cover them when they need emergency care.


It's not my responsibility to pay for other people's health care -- I'm not paying for people's shitty mistakes and I don't want anyone paying for me.


That was my point.  I don't want to pay for the uninsured who use the emergency room.  Wooof covered this pretty well. 

XUL said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
XUL said:
Clinton calling people deplorable, Hirono telling men to shut up, Watters calling citizens to heckle conservative.


They aren't democrat positions.


Yes they are -- as they are being streamlined by lead democrat senators.


Really?  What lead democratic senators have "streamlined" these positions for the party?


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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
You are right.

I just don't believe in being forced to do it.


Hirono, Clinton passed, Watters, Booker, Harris, and so forth.

I already told you this 3 times. You clearly don't read, fal


I'm tired of repeating myself to you.

Read.


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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: XUL] * 2
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XUL said:
Hirono, Clinton passed, Watters, Booker, Harris, and so forth.

I already told you this 3 times. You clearly don't read, fal


I'm tired of repeating myself to you.

Read.


And I've already told you one person saying something stupid doesn't mean that's the party line.  I'm tired of repeating this to you.  Or do you support mocking the disabled and all the other stupid things I mentioned that Trump has said, as you believe that's the official republican line?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
You are right.

I just don't believe in being forced to do it.


Fair enough. I get that. You would benefit from a universal healthcare system though, as the pot would be bigger, whilst the product would be cheaper. It's worth thinking about objectively.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
XUL said:
You are right.

I just don't believe in being forced to do it.


Fair enough. I get that. You would benefit from a universal healthcare system though, as the pot would be bigger, whilst the product would be cheaper. It's worth thinking about objectively.


That's a fair argument.

And I can entertain the idea of national healthcare, but I'm not fond on how ObamaCare operated. The mandateshelped some, but not others.

It was a a shit program that I will never give in to.


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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
I can entertain the idea of national healthcare...


The majority of Americans are open to this.  It'll be interesting to see if Government listens to the people, or the Health Insurance lobbyists.


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Re: Kyle Kulinski OWNS Chris Stigall on Fox News [Re: XUL] * 2
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XUL said:
Bigbadwooof said:
XUL said:
You are right.

I just don't believe in being forced to do it.


Fair enough. I get that. You would benefit from a universal healthcare system though, as the pot would be bigger, whilst the product would be cheaper. It's worth thinking about objectively.


That's a fair argument.

And I can entertain the idea of national healthcare, but I'm not fond on how ObamaCare operated. The mandateshelped some, but not others.

It was a a shit program that I will never give in to.


Obama was a huge disappointment. When I reflect on his presidency, while I really liked the guy, I hate most of the things he did. He had a supermajority, yet didn't manage to implement a single-payer system. In my view, healthcare is something you either go all-in with, or all out.

The thing I liked about the Affordable Care Act was that is addressed the 'pre-existing conditions' issue, and it provided coverage for many people in need.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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