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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Bluntsmoke]
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Bluntsmoke said:
Almost everywhere I have read about g2g transfers, I overwhelmingly hear about how important it is to do this with a flowhood or still air box. A lot of people even think it's impossible to have success without using either of those believe it or not. Dont get me wrong I understand that it's better to be safe than sorry and that they definitely help but at the same time I feel like the shroom community has a issue of scaring people off before they even give cultivating a shot. Im not pointing fingers but alot of what I have read makes it feel like your gonna fail if you don't follow the rules or guidelines a perfect 100%. Or if you don't have all these extra accessories, etc. I believe it makes this hobby very intimidating to get into when most the information available is full of contradictions and I don't mean to be rude but also full of people just talking out of there ass. I've been told many times that if I try a liquid culture I'll get a contam if I don't use SAB or flow hood. The consensus was you have a maybe 5 percent chance of success doing this in open air. That's weird though,  because i have over 21 liquid cultures. 21 different strains and some I have multiples of so closer to 30 in total.  All done in open air and 0% contams. All have been tested on new jars and all were great.  Same goes for the grain to grain transfer I was talking about at the beginning.  Ive done g2g transfers already atleast 25 times.  I know that's not a ton but it's because I just started recently. I was hesitant to even try it because of all the info I read. Glad I did go for it because I was 100% successful in open air. I like it even more then using LC. Amazing how fast it works. I know this is a long and all over the place rant but I hope someone new gets some peace of mind from this.  There is plenty of good advice but there is also plenty of bad advice so Don't be afraid to find things out for yourself. I'm not advocating that people should cut corners or half ass it, I just don't like how alot of people try to make this harder then it really is. I respect the veterans of this hobby but even they know this doesn't take a genius to do.



:wellthatsweird:


Mycolorado said:
You might have some success here and there open-air but it won’t be consistent.  You say you tested all these lcs on grain and they’re clean, yet contams often aren’t apparent until it’s spawned.  I’d like to see the fruit from these grows.



:whathesaid: My man!


Bluntsmoke said:
Give a damn if your a trusted cultivator



"You're"  :zaphod:


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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Tormato]
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I just dont understand why...


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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Mycolorado]
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Sure I'll be more than happy to post some.  And you must not of read what I wrote because I clearly said they make things safer and that they definitely help.  My point was that they aren't as necessary as people make them seem.  I know damn well I'm far from the first person to have good results without them. I was also talking about the hobby of cultivating,  not professional. This was clearly directed at newcomers. I also clarified that I'm not advocating half ass work, I'm just making it a little less intimidating then many others do.

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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Bluntsmoke]
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:fryflipoff:

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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Bluntsmoke]
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Bluntsmoke said:
JHOVA said:
Show pics of your clean jars. I bet they look disgusting.



Are you fuckin kidding me? You think I just made all this shit up for fun? IDK what fairyland you live in but I prefer reality.  I'll post many pics here within the hour.  What really is disgusting is how smug you are and even worse is this retarded sense of entitlement you have. Ignorance at its finest.



You're coming in here making outlandish claims without pics what do you expect?
No need to get so wriled up.  Just get your pics and prove us all wrong


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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Zero Nowhere]
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I dont believe shit until i see proof.


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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: JHOVA]
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Let's all get back to being chill as a cucumber while we wait for pics of these bacteria ridden jars of grain spawn


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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Bluntsmoke] * 2
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To me it's the concept of starting newbies off in the right direct. Op says certain instruments aren't a necessity, but I question when does it become a necessity? If we're determining the necessity of a flow hood, SAB, and/or a PC on a curve of failures to successes, where is the line drawn? Professional or just as a hobby the desired outcomes are still relatively the same, right? So why not start out professional about it and increase your chances of success right?

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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Tormato]
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People do good all the time without them.  Again I'm not deterring people from using them,  I'm simply making things a little easier to grasp. The way you guys speak sometimes is ridiculous. It deters people from even beginning.  Which is wrong.  It's better to take a few steps and fall Then it is to never get up at all.  Hope you understand what I mean

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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Bluntsmoke]
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And I clearly said using an SAB or flowhood definitely helps so I don't see why all of you think I'm over here trying to give people bad advice. Again I clearly stated the pros of using them

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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Tormato]
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OP, take a breather, you're getting your panties twisted.

You're one inexperienced grower who is suggesting that newbies shouldn't bother with a SAB, because it has worked for you. The decades of experience shared here has shown that a SAB is an invaluable piece of equipment.

Fighting contamination is a game of probabilities. We work in a SAB to reduce chances of contamination. No-one is forcing you to use a SAB.

Where the experienced growers do take exception is in your attitude - they are all laughing at you, they aren't uptight at all - and your advise to other beginners which is based on anecdotal evidence. Anecdotal evidence is not enough to convince those here experienced in the scientific method.

But, seriously. Take a break. Calm down. Come back, and let's chat rationally about this.


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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Tormato]
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what tomoato said... also, no need to take things personal. someone not agreeing with not using a sab or flowhood and joking about it, since if you use the search you'll find you're not the first person to not wan't to use proper tools.


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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Bluntsmoke] * 1
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Lighten up, man.  As stated, you’re giving bad advice.  Cleanliness is the crux of cultivating fungi and open air inoculation of grain or LC, is not clean.  I’m glad you’ve had some success a couple times but the longer you do this the more you will come to realize that not using a sab or hood is simply foolish.  And check the attitude...you come off as some butthurt little bitch just because people who have failed more than you have tried are trying to offer some good advice and save you the losses and failures you’re certainly destined to encounter if you continue doing what you’re doing.  Also, ain’t nothing complicated about flipping a tub over cutting armholes in it.  :shrug:

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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Bluntsmoke]
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Bluntsmoke said:
People do good all the time without them.  Again I'm not deterring people from using them,  I'm simply making things a little easier to grasp. The way you guys speak sometimes is ridiculous. It deters people from even beginning.  Which is wrong.  It's better to take a few steps and fall Then it is to never get up at all.  Hope you understand what I mean



I totally do bro and in most situations you are correct....fall down, scrap your knee, get back on the bike with knee pads this time...BUT, the cool part about the site, and granted there are some personalities on here, is that there are countless many that have already scrapped their knees and have found ways to stop that from happening.

In the scheme of things I would rather gather all the info I can about a hobby or profession so that I am well equipped than to spend countless times failing and learning the hard way, ya know? I mean why go through the trials and tribulations when you can get a free ride through others lessons? I think that would be more of a deterrent than spend the extra cash to protect yourself from failure...know what I mean brotha?

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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: ithikuss]
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You all are the ones who have sand in your vagina.  Jesus. Have you not read what I've posted from the beginning and the responses I received.  I believe I have the right to respond the way I have. There was no joking, so let's no pretend. Also you guys are the exact type of people I was referring too.  You completely doubt what I said and your the ones who tell everyone that they will fail if they don't follow your guidelines.  It's sick.  This honestly is Soooooo much easier then what people made it out to be which is why I never tried until few months ago.  I went head first into this though and I'm very driven. I like to do things big.  Im using popcorn,  brf,  rye and WBS all at the same time.  A few months is more then enough time to get a grasp of this but I took it to another level especially  for a beginner and ive been incredibly successful. I just want people to realize that it's not as hard as its made out to be, I do this in the hope that they actually try instead of letting people put so much doubt into them that they never start and miss out the many joys this hobby brings. It's almost like its christmas everyday when you have alot of things going

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Re: Open air g2g transfer tip [Re: Bluntsmoke] * 3
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:melt:

Upload some pics instead of ranting.

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