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Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed * 1
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Siva few days ago I ate a 1/2 tab (yeah dosage system sounds great) of LSD. The trip was good and towards the end of the comeback waves I was wanting to go to bed. I can't take melatonin much because it has a high tolerance with me. We'll the other day was about a month since last use and I figured I could try and go to bed.  I ate aproximently 300mg of melatonin and went to go lay down. I was at the very end of the trip,  peeked hours ago,  like I could drive around easy that's how much I was not tripping. Then about 5 minutes into laying in bed,  I started tripping again super hard,  and not like just a rogue wave coming back to fuck with me. I was going pretty hard to the point almost like visuals of a psilocin trip. I mentioned something about it in an off topic thread and I got some flak.

It makes some sense having the same indoles and similar receptor affinities. I think they piggy back off each other like LSA and LSD at the same time.

Has anyone else experienced melatonin with LSD and had something similar happen? Granted I ate alot, but melatonin doesn't affect my ability to sleep at common doses of 20-30mg, so maybe no one has thought of eating a fuck ton of Mel with some L.
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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: RaRaRasputin]
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That's a massive dose. I usually take 3 to 5mg and feel it pretty strongly.

I could only imagine 300mg would have an effect on your trip somehow


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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: Eclipse3130]
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A regular dose of melatonin is 3-10mg. How and why do you take 300mg that's absurd.


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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: Straight Mush]
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Because anything under 100 I do not feel the slightest bit sleepy.  Around 100 a will feel kinda tired and around 200 I'll feel sleepy. So I figured 300 mg would work fine.

Also before you go around saying no one has a threshold that big,  there's lots of evidence showing melatonin "deficiancies" are being misdiagnosed and really the person has a higher inherent tolerance to melatonin. I know 1 other person face to face like me that normal doses don't work.  He's like me and needs 100+ for anything to happen.

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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: RaRaRasputin]
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I wouldn't go around saying anything of the sort. It's interesting to me that you can take 300mg of melatonin.

I believe you, my friend has an extremely high tolerance to mushroom alkaloids. Dude takes 10 grams and has a mild experience.

Melatonin seems to make me dream more frequently or allows me to recollect the fact I've dreamt. I don't remember or maybe dream at all because I use cannabis frequently which seems to null dreams for me.


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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: Straight Mush]
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Holy shit if I take more than 6 mg I have trouble waking up the next day. And I've been taking melatonin for over a year now. How many pills is that? Atleast 30 right? Do you buy melatonin powder?


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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: Crispy224]
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Pills,  yeah,  like a whole bottle at a time it seams.

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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: RaRaRasputin]
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Does ingesting melatonin actually have anything greater than a placebo effect? Like have studies been done on this. I need to look into it.


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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: RaRaRasputin]
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RaRaRasputin said:
Because anything under 100 I do not feel the slightest bit sleepy.  Around 100 a will feel kinda tired and around 200 I'll feel sleepy. So I figured 300 mg would work fine.

Also before you go around saying no one has a threshold that big,  there's lots of evidence showing melatonin "deficiancies" are being misdiagnosed and really the person has a higher inherent tolerance to melatonin. I know 1 other person face to face like me that normal doses don't work.  He's like me and needs 100+ for anything to happen.





Melatonin doesn't really make one sleepy/sedated....and I've heard that taking large doses can actually keep people awake and screw up their sleep cycles/patterns. (And you took an absolutely massive dose lol, like others mentioned, 3mg to 5mg is a typical dose). Taking more does not = more when it comes to melatonin.



The way I understand it....Melatonin is best used to re-set a sleep pattern/schedule and get one's circadian rhythm back in order, it is not so much a "sleeping pill" or a "sleep aid"....Melatonin doesn't really have any sedation to it, it won't "knock someone out" into sleep, it doesn't work like that. Melatonin is just a hormone that regulates the sleep/wake cycles & systems of the body, it's very mild and as far as I know it doesn't have any direct mechanism that causes sedation. It doesn't matter how much melatonin you take, the stuff isn't going to make you all that sleepy or sedated.



If one has a sleep schedule/pattern that's out of wack or if someone wants to change their sleep pattern (like if switching to working night shifts, or visa versa...or traveling across the world where the time is different), taking melatonin at bed time can get the system's circadian rhythm back in order or help to set a new "bed time"....

....but if one is having trouble getting to sleep, taking melatonin isn't necessarily going to do much of anything (it can help drifting off into sleep, but it's doesn't really provide any direct sedation). It certainly won't do much for the lingering stimulation of LSD lol. It's mostly used for a short period of time just to tell the bodies system, "this is the time of day/night to go to sleep" . It's like a signal the body's systems use for sleepy time, but it doesn't really make one all that sleepy.


If you want to work with an actual sleep aid, something that should make one feel sedated and sleepy as fuck...Try out some diphenhydramine :wink: .






But yea...perhaps there was some sort of interaction between the massive dose of melatonin and residual effects of the L that gave you that last "wave" of sorts :shrug:....

I notice when I lay down for sleep after a trip, as I'm drifting deeper into relaxation and into the very first/shallow stages of sleep, things can get pretty weird & trippy sometimes. Very vivid hypnagogic hallucinations, I've even experienced things like exploding head syndrome .






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Re: Had a crazy experience trying to go to bed [Re: openmind]
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Yeah,  I wasn't necessarly in bed,  I got a few things ready like water and did some last BS I needed to do ony phone.  I was feeling a come on honestly before I even close my eyes.  It was certainly not like driving into a trippy dream state,  I know what you are talking about and it wasn't that.

Also I didnt really know that,  growing up right before my mom went cooco for coco puffs,  she really got into this all natural herbal BS. She use to give me melatonin if I had trouble sleeping and it worked.  Though I only found out later in life that taking it over and over builds a tolerance and less sleep promoting effects.  The affects of anything under 100mg for me now doesn't provide and sleep promoting feel.  Why take mel if you aren't going to sleep.  Does the clock still reset even if you are not sleeping?

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