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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: Happinessfeeling] * 1
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Happinessfeeling said:
krypto2000 said:
People who use psychedelics tend to be more mentally stable and more intelligent than those who do not, there's a study that actually showed this.


Strange, LSD induced psychosis in me the two times I used it, and smoking salvia divinorum leaves made me permanently deranged.
I'm naturally intelligent and mentally stable, and strong psychedelics simply ruined my equilibrium, made me anxious, and gave me panic attacks and paranoia.
I don't think that you can make such concrete statements based on a study that was done with a random group of people.
Everyone is different, and to make such general statements as "psychedelic users are more mentally stable and intelligent than those who do not use psychedelics" demonstrates a personal bias, and the statement itself is flat-out incorrect.


This discusses, and links to, the study in question. 135,095 people is quite a sample size, I think it's fair to extrapolate from it. Also you must consider the numerous other studies that looked for yet cannot find any actual mental illnesses associated with psychedelic users in general.

With that said I too have had what you may consider psychotic breaks from psychedelics. I've been hospitalized for it even, yet I still stand by this assessment. The largest psychological break lasted about 2 months (although only 1.5 weeks of such was negative).

When all is said and done though that was a passing experience, I learned from it, and am more mentally sound than ever; what I took away and integrated into myself was by and large positive. I am not psychotic, I experienced psychosis and as a result I am more stable day to day than had I not. I can still go back to that place, I often do intentionally so, but it's no longer a negative. I kind of view it as a mental exercise.

It's like weight training. You can overexert yourself and pull a muscle, and that is a good reason to take a break so that you can heal, but it doesn't mean weight training is unhealthy. It doesn't mean weight training makes one pull muscles, nor does it mean you would be stronger if you did not weight train. It simply means that with additional ability comes additional room for mistakes. By and large however no one would dispute that because you can overexert yourself and cause damage that people who lift weights are not stronger than those who do not. Be mindful, pay attention, and do not overextend yourself either in mind or body and you will grow.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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Thanks for sharing your personal account kryptos.
I appreciate it very much.
I have gained many benefits from some psychedelic use, although what I was trying to say I guess is that overall, in my reckless and unguided use, along with being very young, I might have caused more damage to myself than help.
Cheers.


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I am Jah Jesus Christ Snoop Doggy Dogg Burning Ganja Bush Lord Shiva King Death Row Kambodia Allah Mahavishnu Masta Killa King Wu-Tang Lord Gautauma Buddha Om Krishna.
My name is Nishith Vijay a.k.a. HappinessFeeling.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: Happinessfeeling]
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Typical LSD user is a young, educated white male. In my experience, this is more so a cultural thing. People I know who are into the hip-hop scene (white or black) seem afraid of psychedelics but are fine with Percs or xans. One of my friends once said to me, “Oh, so you’re on them white people drugs!”

To comment on the paralleling conversation, psychedelics have made me a better, more stable and integrated person, hands down. Some people can be destabilized by them. I’d imagine certain mental health issues will be amplified (though they’ve worked wonders for my depression). I think they can be more problematic for ppl with a tendency toward psychosis. But then again, this isn’t likely always the case.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: CountHTML]
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lsd is not the only psychedelic.
you use what is available, cannabis is psychedelic with a gentle narcosis, or pain relief, nothing to skoff at.


this is more about cultural residue (availability) than an ethnic preference. i.e. it is not in DNA. more territorial.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
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Spiritual realms do not subscribe to the material worlds' ethnic differences. A true shroomer knows this.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: CatLicker]
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Let's go back to high school.
Easy.
The bright kids like acid.
The lunkheads, and dumbasses like booze or pills.
The really stupid fucks go for PCP, meth, and opiates.
But damn near everyone likes weed.

JWM

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: CatLicker]
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CatLicker said:
Spiritual realms do not subscribe to the material worlds' ethnic differences. A true shroomer knows this.


Sure, but people asking questions do.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: JWM]
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JWM said:
Let's go back to high school.
Easy.
The bright kids like acid.
The lunkheads, and dumbasses like booze or pills.
The really stupid fucks go for PCP, meth, and opiates.
But damn near everyone likes weed.

JWM


I would have liked your high school :lol:


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Materialistic, individualistic, truth seeker, risk taker.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: JWM]
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JWM said:
Let's go back to high school.
Easy.
The bright kids like acid.
The lunkheads, and dumbasses like booze or pills.
The really stupid fucks go for PCP, meth, and opiates.
But damn near everyone likes weed.

JWM


Acid is for people who are not naturally psychedelic, and are rather somewhat stupid and dull, who need to take this stuff to open their eyes to what is already obvious to most people.
So according to you, anyone who enjoys drinking alcohol is a dumbass?
LOL, you are being ignorant and generalizing.
Also, some of the smartest people I've ever known used angel dust and meth, so again you are wrong here.
"Everyone likes weed."
What's your point?
This is one of the stupidest posts I've read in a long time.


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I am Jah Jesus Christ Snoop Doggy Dogg Burning Ganja Bush Lord Shiva King Death Row Kambodia Allah Mahavishnu Masta Killa King Wu-Tang Lord Gautauma Buddha Om Krishna.
My name is Nishith Vijay a.k.a. HappinessFeeling.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: JWM]
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JWM said:
Let's go back to high school.
Easy.
The bright kids like acid.
The lunkheads, and dumbasses like booze or pills.
The really stupid fucks go for PCP, meth, and opiates.
But damn near everyone likes weed.

JWM


I actually loved speed and learned about moderation after a scare, so this prejudice lacks Velcro for me. (but I believed it in junior high school)


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
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Not calling you a "stupid fuck," but do you think anyone would actually self identify as such?

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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LOL
Now I'm feeling like Inflation. Humor challenged, are we? Do I have to flag a smart-ass goof as a smart-ass goof?

To quote Foghorn Leghorn:
"That's a joke, son. I say,  that's a joke...."

JWM

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: JWM]
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Some people need to learn to laugh a bit.

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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: CountHTML]
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many people are offended when meth gets the bad rap.

the drug is not really that bad in itself, but the people who have been deeply touched by it have really been touched to the bone.

strychnine, well, there is your extreme ethnic indicator if you need one, strychnine users usually pee on their feet while running to the river.


stay way from dat one fer sure.


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Re: Ethnic groups and psychedelics [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
considering this as a serious question indicates a racist meme infects you.


please try a salvia enema.


LMAO, what??? seriously, what?

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